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Comet Elenin disintegrating and breaking up as it approaches the Sun
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On to the next comet or asteroid. No doomsday for this one.
So long Elenin. It was fun while it lasted.
Be blessed and Maranatha
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Blue star Kachina…
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Oh well, the good book tells us that we are in for it. Maybe not today, but someday soon. That one will not break apart.
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The world will face comet threats…they are more likely to come from dark comets and as I said from the onset, Elenin wasn’t the one.
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God is always in control!
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lol, which one?
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Good answer!
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Hi all,
Forgive me, I’m new here and am just an amateur scientist… I have zero credentials, other than I am human and I tend to see things, curiously….
That being said, with Ellie’s trajectory being “earth crossing” (Please correct me, if wrong); wouldn’t that mean that her breaking up is potentially catastrophic ???? Since they are visibly breaking apart, clearly there are new trajectories of the larger pieces to be recalculated, right? Please advise….
Ps – what if it’s not breaking up, but rather was struck by an asteroid / object on it’s way through “the belt”…..
God bless,
Dan
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Not this far out. Remember the trajectory of Comet Elenin is being controlled by the Sun; not Earth. The Sun has 99.99% of the mass of the entire solar system, so it rules what comes in and out of inter-planetary space. People talk about the electric effect of comets on Earth, but they forget about the electromagnetic effect of the plasma disc that out irradiates 85% of the known stars in the Milky Way Galaxy- our Sun. Elenin was probably dislodged from an Oort orbit…and that may be more cause for concern than a 3-4 km diameter comet that appears to be elongating in a break-up very similar to Comet Linear.
God bless,
Alvin
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Hi Alvin,
Fascinating, indeed!!!! Understand and totally agree that the sun is in the drivers seat…. I think i may have stated my idea poorly…
My thought was that although the overall trajectory of Ellie remains unchanged, it appears that the physical characteristic may have (not sure if I’m saying that correctly)…..
If the recent CME’s energy and heat caused a rapid heating of Ellie, then internal pressures from gas and steam might have caused the comet to expand, crack/rupture, explode, etc….. ie “break up”…. (see STEREO obs of CME / Ellie interaction on following link)
http://spaceobs.org/en/2011/08/24/interaction-between-comet-elenin-and-coronal-mass-ejection-from-the-sun/ )
This break up, (as visible in photo animation posted here, scroll down – http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm ), appears to show material going in all directions, but especially behind the comet…
Perhaps it’s just dust and solar wind, but it does seem that some of it’s mass was blown off/apart and is “lagging”…. Like dropping a bucket of water off a tall building, it holds together at first, until it’s overcome by friction with air (ie CME) and disperses into thousands of smaller droplets that hit the ground separately, at different times (CME effect on Ellie metaphor – shotgun pellets experience a similiar phenomena, but different)….
That being said, with the trailing pieces moving slower (as evidenced by the objects moving away from eachother) and arriving later, will this change in speed allow for the earth to progress through it’s orbit enough so that a potential intersection of the “trailing pieces” and the earth becomes mathematically probabl? ( as both proceed independently in their orbits around the sun)
I’m not a doomsday’er and I don’t think Ellie is a threat to humanity…. However, I am hoping for a once in a lifetime meteor shower!!!!!
PS- any thoughts on 45P/Honda-Mrkos-Pajdusakova’s 0.06AU flyby?
Cheers and God Bless,
Dan
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You stated it fine, Dan. If the comet was close enough, the planet could fly through a debris trail and quite frankly, I think that is a huge concern going into the future as more comets disintegrate near perihelion and fragmentary debris could create bolide showers on Earth. The accounts of the destruction of the first world by indigenous people are replete with stories of fireball showers following across the horizon as D.S. Allan and J.B. Delair pointed out in numerous citations in their book Cataclysm, compelling evidence of a cosmic catastrophe.
Comet Honda will pass relatively close to Earth about 8,980,000 km; 5,580,000 miles. It’s about half the size of Elenin, about 0.5 to 1.6 km in diameter and it’s a short-period comet which means it’s been here before without much incident. It passes every 5.26 years. Comet Honda is expected to reach a peak magnitude of around 7.3 in late September when it is near perihelion. Since the magnitude brightness scale is descending by order of brightness…that means the comet is not very bright and would have to be a 4 to be seen with the naked eye. However, it can be viewed with binoculars in the right vantage point. Other than that; we are seeing more cometary visitors and 2012-2014 may hold more surprises.
God bless,
Alvin
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Thank you for this news, I was really getting freaked out by all of the hype. I am happy I looked towards the scientific data rather than listening to hyperbole. Philip
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We appreciate you turning to us for a pertinent source of the latest information. As I stated from the onset, despite being lashed by critics to the contrary, there was nothing of valid scientific concern behind the hype and mania being generated by this comet. I stood on the relevancy of science, in regard to this matter, and my position is vindicated.
peace and blessings,
Alvin
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That thought came to me also.
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Hey Dan , just a small insert for you, Alvin and other intelegency regarding Elenin , Honda and any other incoming objects…
Lots of talk about deviation of object trajectory from astroid impacts and other planetary
gravitational forces, but nothing about :- Warped Space ( my passion )
So depending on the the Sun & Moons locations relative to Earth there could very possibly be a space of extended deviation created to draw comet debry or small mangintude objects toward Earth out of the long term calculated trajectories by the boyz in the know ie An Astroid impact on the US west coast a week or so ago. that was not found and tracked by Astroid watch…. I rest my case !
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Wow Brian,
I hadn’t heard about the asteriod impact on the west coast… I heard about an impact in Australia…
Craziest thing is, last weekend I picked up a rock off the beach here in South Florida and thought it was a meteorite…. never seen anything like before… especially on the beach in So Flo… It looked like lava, or some odd coral, but was charcoal color and heavy, like a cast iron skillet (although it’s not magnetic) with lots of “bubbles” like pumice, but many sizes, small to fairly large…. I thought it was prob just waterlogged lava, so i’ve been drying it out the last few days to see if the wieght changes…
know any “at home test” I can do to check it out a bit?
Cheers and God Bless,
Dan
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Perhaps the recent CME is what’s caused the comet to break up?
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So what. No one can see that the imminent danger is in MAN and how we live. The Virginia earthquake last week was .2 from killing the biggest town in America. If that quake had been any bigger it could have caused the nuclear reactors to melt down and explode and then pump radiation into the path of Hiricain Irene which just swept the East coast and would have killed or radiated millions I’m sure.
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Some New Age weirdos are saying that the “Annunaki spaceship Elenin” is just sending out scouts… so it looks like it is disintegrating. Fantasy knows no limit.
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What that tells me is the world’s is being groomed for a grand deception by demonic being masquerading as alien travelers.
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Exactly!
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Roger that…holographic technology will provide the means for a world-wide deception. Be prepared to *not* believe your own eyes when watching the skies! All in the name of world domination by the elites.
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Gather five friends around you and tell them, they’re fortunate to have you in their midst. On the subject of holographic deceptions and signs and wonders in the sky:
People ask about a sun appearing in the sky in one place but seen no where else. Why? That’s nothing that can be quantified by science. No more than Marian induced apparitions of the sun swooning from the sky was a real event for followers transfixed by a miracle of the Sun at Fatima or Garabandal Spain. A hologram defies the lies of science, because it has no mass and occupies no space- but there it is visible to your eyes. Christ warned his followers about “great signs and wonders in so much as it was possible, they shall decieve the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.” Matthew 24:24, 25 and if things are said to appear, we are told “to go not forth” and see them and “believe it not” Matthew 24:26 “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven in the sight of men. And deceived them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do.” Revelation 13:13, 14. If we chose to go on this path and that is one’s choice, the Bible says “God will send a strong delusion that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thess 2:11,12
Finally, I leave you with a quote from Wikipedia how a man with a misinterpreted picture created an atmosphere for tragedy about a past comet:
“In November 1996 amateur astronomer Chuck Shramek of Houston, Texas took a CCD image of the comet, which showed a fuzzy, slightly elongated object nearby. When his computer sky-viewing program did not identify the star, Shramek called the Art Bell radio program Coast to Coast AM to announce that he had discovered a “Saturn-like object” following Hale–Bopp. UFO enthusiasts, such as remote viewing proponent Courtney Brown, soon concluded that there was an alien spacecraft following the comet. Several astronomers, including Alan Hale, claimed the object was simply an 8.5-magnitude star, SAO141894, which did not appear on Shramek’s computer program because the user preferences were set incorrectly. Later, Art Bell even claimed to have obtained an image of the object from an anonymous astrophysicist who was about to confirm its discovery. However, astronomers Olivier Hainaut and David J. Tholen of the University of Hawaii stated that the alleged photo was an altered copy of one of their own comet images. A few months later, in March 1997, the cult Heaven’s Gate committed mass suicide with the intention of teleporting to a spaceship they believed was following the comet.
Nancy Lieder, a self-proclaimed contactee who claims to receive messages from aliens through an implant in her brain, stated that Hale–Bopp was a fiction designed to distract the population from the coming arrival of “Nibiru” or “Planet X”, a giant planet whose close passage would disrupt the Earth’s rotation, causing global cataclysm. Although Lieder’s original date for the apocalypse, May 2003, has now passed, the imminent arrival of Nibiru is still predicted by various conspiracy websites, most of whom tie it to the 2012 phenomenon.” –Wikipedia, Hale-Bopp comet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Hale%E2%80%93Bopp
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Alvin old chasp, with the rotten state of the world , one can’t blame folks for getting excited about
some payback and a ticket outa here…
In my neck of the woods we have out of control polygamous breeding for welfare grants. A factional nepotistic regime ~ corrupt has hell forcing socialism on us like there is no tomorrow
with one of the highest murder & rape rates in the world…And a youth league fighting its goverment for control of the country to instal nationalisation and expropriation of all private assets !
While the world thinks this is Mandelatopia..Not !
I for one would love ta see the sky fall on chicken lickens head…
As the future looks really Crapola, this being Africa De Sud …!!
Hopefully Eli has left us a debry field to fly through…Hail Stones from Heaven !!
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Africa ….. I thought you where talking about California….
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Hey idb < nice to make your aquaintance…
No worries mate I am in South Africa going pearshaped just like California
as the dark dude who currently has dominion over the Earth is inflicting the
pain of Socialism and over population. with war coupled with goverment crime on all of us…
Have some good friends in Ogden Utah, 1000 Oaks Los Angeles & Martin Tennessee…
Got quite a good handle on whats going down in the world abd the US of A…
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I wouldn’t be so sure Elenin is breaking up.
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I don’t believe it! Let’s watch this space and see what occurs the 26th of September….
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Here it comes. There it goes.
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Comet Elenin is just a comet… it’s not Nibiru.
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Correct, it was just one of the many diversions, now that it is passed, many more will take it’s place.
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+1
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Who said it was? But Brown Dwarf definitely exists! do the research! and guess what, according to the data its due right about now! I ‘m keeping a beedy eye on this little drama… just in case!!!
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Of course brown dwarfs exist but that doesn’t mean one is coming our way. Nibiru is nothing but new age nonsense.
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Are you prepared to be wrong Kent?
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Ha! Finally. A lot of disappointed Christians with sad face today.
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There should be no sad faces. There is nothing in the Bible that points to this comet or any other comet being a threat other than a reference to Wormwood, which still no one knows what it means. The last people that listened to a biblical comet prophet committed suicide.
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Hi Alvin, what do you mean with “wormwood”. My smart dictionary tells me its a plant, a comic, a computer game, a saga. What is the connection to the Bible? Could you give me a hint.
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“And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, becaue they were made bitter .” –Revelation 8:10-11
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Alvin, have you heard any reports about a meteorite landing here in Australia? There was some brief mention of it on the radio last night but since then nothing. I have no idea where to look on the net.
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Haven’t heard anything Sheryl…but I’ll look into it…
Thanks,
Alvin
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Friends,
Yes the world is filled with evil tendencies and weak people but getting a “ticket outa here” is not what Jesus taught. He walked, talked, taught, healed, converted, chastised and loved. I think LOVE might be the lesson we are supposed to be learning here. Love is not approval of what’s wrong and a “there, there,” kiss on the head. Love is truth and goodness. God Is Love said someone we know. Anyway, lets quit hoping for a disaster to take everyone out and start working to make this world a better place for as long as we are here.
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The sad part is it takes the disaster to force people out of there selfish ways and work as a whole, yet much suffering will take place before that realization comes to pass, and if the powers that be continue the rule of mental and physical oppression then the paradigm can not shift, in conclusion the system has to break entirely so it can be rebuilt to it’s true potential, unfortunately for those based in our society of uber convenience that’End’ will pose such a shock, that the obsession of self indulgence will be their downfall and the majority of society will just give up out of sheer lack of motivation, some would be amazed just how important the tv, starbucks and a big mac is to most of the ego based human race and many would rather not live then live without such convenience. A punk rock band that was way ahead of their time by the name of The Dead Kennedy’s, said it best in one of their album titles ‘Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death’ (a great album, give it a listen if you have the chance).
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very good point!! Thanks, Paula
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hey guys plz check out this photo shot today in victoria australia. Zoom in to see unknown object near the sun. is it elenin or nibiru. Plz reply Alvin. It was shot through polaroid sunglasses and the tint strip on top of car windscreen. The round object also shows up on another pic but more behind clouds and cannot see the red object around it. Did not see this at the time
http://picturepush.com/public/6431101
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Interesting pic Sarah. I would love to hear Alvin’s take on it. Could it just be Venus or Mars?
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You just did, see prior response. Or maybe it’s nothing and something visible only to the observer….like this Marian apparition circumspect of the Sun: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmRZlJV0VuHBdFcd3c3lhnDG8G5yYzwLjQtkEZ3EMtgvFDjzLmUsPf4WlwAA
Catholic parishners took this photo in Medjugorje of the sun from a miracle attributed to the Virgin Mary’s appearance….does it mean there was actually a physical black object in front of the Sun? Of course not and none was reported.
If there are two Suns in the sky, I’ld like to know where the other one is hiding? Don’t believe everything your eyes have been condition by your brain to see. We’re in for more incidents of this nature.
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In other words, don’t believe what you see, believe what somone who claims to have higher intelligence tells you your seeing, kinda like the ten o’clock news, none the less, those who perpetuate lies are just as guilty as those who conceive them…….
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Wow. Great photo. Wonder what they are…
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I see two objects…both blue…one left of the Sun smaller than the one right of the Sun.
MP
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Yes I see two objects. What is up?
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Apparition created by the lens / polarized sunglasses / windshield….. Like lens flare, it happens all the time…., or Photoshop.
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Hi people. I have to apologise, this seems to be nothing more than lens flare. Tried again today during clear sky and little round dots like this show up and change position as I move the camera around. Had a good look near the sun and see only ‘the’ sun. Got a little too excited I think when saw in that photo what looked to be like the red devil planet. Should have known better than to be fooled by a lens flare. Feel silly but better to admit an error right? Sometimes I wonder if Nibiru is real or not… Time to learn to use my telescope… Love and peace friends
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ain today during clear sky and little round dots like this show up and change position as I move the camera around. Had a good look near the sun and see only ‘the’ sun. Got a little too excited I think when saw in that photo what looked to be like the red devil planet. Should have known better than to be fooled by a lens flare. Feel silly but better to admit an error right? Sometimes I wonder if Nibiru is real or not… Time to learn to use my telescope… Love and peace friends
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It,s a so called sun dog. Google it. I made pics with apparently two suns. But it was a sun dog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog
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Good point, but the 2 objects in the Australian pic look a lot more solid and defined!! Inconclusive!! S.
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I agree with S.
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Umm, is it just me or will this make the threat worse since there are now multiple objects not just one?
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The first sounded, and there came hail and fire, mixed with blood, and they were thrown to the earth -Rev 8:7
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. . . the roof fell on them from above: and, whence they looked not for it, punishment overtook them . . .What can the infidels expect but that the angels of death come upon them , , , – Sura XVI
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E.L.E.N.I.N.
Extinction
Letdown
Event
Naysaying
Is
Next
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Ohhhh that’s so cute Scott, clever, aren’t we.
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Hello Alvin,just a quick question that I hope you can comment on.We are all aware of the Mayan Prophesies in the coming year 2012 but I wanted to ask you whether there were any major events that DID come to pass after Mayan predictions thousands of years ago.I know there is hell of a lot on the subject and a lot of research required yet I can find nothing at the moment.With your comprehensive knowledge you may be able to offer some comments.In effect after the first Mayan cycle did anything happen on a Global scale of catastrophic events.If it did after their predictions then one supposes that one can assume there may well be turmoil in the coming months building up to 2012.On the assumption that nothing happened after the Mayan predictions thousands of years ago (The Mayan Cycles) then maybe we have nothing to fear.I am genuinely interested in your comments and constructive criticism.
Best wishes to you
Pete
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Pete, I’m going see if anyone out there may be able to answer that one…if not, I’ll weigh in.
Thanks
Alvin
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Pete,
According to many researchers, Dr. Calleman for one. The December date is the end of the Long Count Calendar. It is not the end of the world, but the end of a cycle.
The Tzolkin calendar on the other hand is 260 days of all the 9 levels compressed into 7 “days” and “nights” of 18 days each. That is where we are right now…on the 5th night. The Tzolkin ends on October 28, 2011 and has more to do with alignments and our consciousness than anything else. See calleman.com for more info.
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If Elenin was thrown out of its orbit by something…….what caused that!
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I think that unravels the whole mystique about Elenin to begin with Radiogirl….
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OK, all of you have permission to feel relieved for the next few days…. we’ll see then.
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“the organized public campaign of fear-mongering on the internet”….
your words my friend.
and then?……The Ext-Prot, is a smooth and optimistic way of thinking?
I like the site, congrats, but I see more “fear, based in facts and science” here,
than I do with the other Elenin doomsday guys over there.
If they say that the comet will be the harbinger of doom, then your highly appreciated site
does the same, We come here for supervolcanos and grade 10 EQ….isn`t that some doom?
Funny End Game for Earth.
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Glad you like the site, thanks. If you know of a way to alter facts and science, to make it more palatable baby food; I’m all ears. In the meantime, here’s a long-distance dedication for any having such a struggle:
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Concerning the possible disintegration of Elenin. The comet is going through a process called fissioning due to intense plasma interaction with the Sun.
If It continues to fragment it will either result in a body of debris following a linear path such as the Shoemaker/Levy which struck Jupiter or simply go kaboom like P17/Holmes. Both can be researched an visuals of both examined online with a simple google search.
In either case the trajectory of debris will be altered. So contrary to those who dismiss Elenin as a non-event, there is an increased probability of impact with debris.
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Fissioning by definition is “the act or process of splitting into parts.” The diameter of Elenin was 3-4 km. The debris is nowhere near the Earth and for there to be a plasma reaction with the Sun, the solar winds are excited when they interface with comets according to known laws of solar astrophysics. Yesterday, the solar winds were close to one of the most significant lows on record. Solar wind speed has only jumped in the last 24 hours because of a coronal hole.
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According to this
http://spaceobs.org/en/2011/09/03/comet-elenin-the-final-prospect/
Elenin will no longer be visible until September 23.
Here is a diagram of the breakup of Shoemaker-Levy.
If an object (such as Earth) had been near the path of the fragments in April or July, 1993, the fragments, although in a straight line relative to each other, would span a large area relative to the object. Is it not possible that if some fragments, whether a kilometer or 100 m in diameter, may become trapped in the Earth’s gravitational field, resulting in impact?
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I really wonder why the heck the tail is still so large if there is not so much mass of a comet left.???
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if the bible does not mention it specifically.. don’t believe allot of the info on the internet is based on crack pots!
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