History’s lost lesson: Ancient nuclear war among Indus Valley civilizations reexamined

July 20, 2011INDIAIs man on the threshold of a new world or merely stuck on a circular treadmill repeating the doomed lessons from history which he never seems to learn? A growing number of scholars believe the world’s macabre fascination with nuclear war is just the latest repeat in a series of blunders human technology seems obsessed with repeating. Ancient tales speak of flying vimanas. Vimanas were real vehicles and the origin of the ‘Aeroplanes.’ Great wars were described in early religious texts. Weapons could literally level the land like a moving force field. In ancient India, we find words for certain measurements of length; one was the distance of light-years and one was the length of an atom. Only a society that possessed nuclear energy would have the need for such words. When Oppenheimer said ‘I am become the destroyer of worlds,’ he was quoting from these ancient books. Believe it or not, the deserts on a number of continents today are the result of (prehistoric) nuclear warfare. Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that Indian sacred writings are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons. An ancient battle is described in the Drona Parva, a section of the Mahabharata. “The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees,” says Ganguli.
  Consider these verses from the ancient Mahabharata: …a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame As bright as the thousand suns Rose in all its splendour… a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds… …the cloud of smoke rising after its first explosion formed into expanding round circles like the opening of giant parasols… ..it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas. …The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; Pottery broke without apparent cause, And the birds turned white. After a few hours All foodstuffs were infected… …to escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment. Until the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, modern mankind could not imagine any weapon as horrible and devastating as those described in the ancient Indian texts. Yet, they very accurately described the effects of an atomic explosion. Radioactive poisoning will make hair and nails fall out. Immersing oneself in water gives some respite, though it is not a cure.
When excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro reached the street level, they discovered skeletons scattered about the cities, many holding hands and sprawling in the streets as if some instant, horrible doom had taken place. People were just lying, unburied, in the streets of the city. Excavations down to the street level revealed 44 scattered skeletons, as if doom had come so suddenly they could not get to their houses. All the skeletons were flattened to the ground. A father, mother and child were found flattened in the street, face down and still holding hands. And these skeletons are thousands of years old, even by traditional archaeological standards. What could cause such a thing? Why did the bodies not decay or get eaten by wild animals? Furthermore, there is no apparent cause of a physically violent death. These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with those at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India that show indications of explosions of great magnitude. One such city, found between the Ganges and the mountains of Rajmahal, seems to have been subjected to intense heat. Huge masses of walls and foundations of the ancient city are fused together, literally vitrified! And since there is no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro or at the other cities, the intense heat to melt clay vessels can only be explained by an atomic blast or some other unknown weapon. The cities were wiped out entirely.
 There is evidence that the Rama empire (now India) was devastated by nuclear war. The Indus valley is now the Thar desert, and the site of the radioactive ash found west of Jodhpur is around there. A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built. For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators’ gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region. Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945. Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay (above). The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Mumbai and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity. No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world’s only known “impact” crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site. -Ajithkuma
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90 Responses to History’s lost lesson: Ancient nuclear war among Indus Valley civilizations reexamined

  1. B Ocasio says:

    This is the first time I have found one of your posts a bit too credulous. On the one hand there is the visionary or prophetic powe of ancient myth, on the other hand there is the possibility of other explanations for those archaeological findings— radioactive object falling from space, in spite of no trace of meteoric material, or other…. There are many things out there astrophysics is only now discovering. Ancient civilizations had their wisdom, no doubt about it, but nuclear warfare? Doubtful. The lesson learning value, however is not wasted. Thank you just the same.

    • Rick says:

      B Ocasio, you need to expand your mind to the realm of possibilities. Edgar Cayce and Dolores Cannon have revealed that ancient Atlantis had incredibly powerful technologies that most likely lead to the destruction of their civilization (with survivors and some technology transferred to Central America and Africa/Egypt). Just because these ideas have not been “proven” in known historical record does not mean they can be totally discounted. Peace be with you.

      • L says:

        i have to agree with B Ocasio on this one; while its fun to read about, and while there does seem to be a prophetic power to ancient myth, this story seems pretty far-fetched. While there’s a lot we may not know, and while it’s probably true we shouldn’t automatically discount ideas not found in historical record, a little healthy skepticism going both ways is probably in order (when something seems too good to be true it usually is). In any case I found a pretty good debunking of the story here:
        (its a couple years old – seems like this story has been floating around for a while).

      • b ocasio says:

        Yes, I understand what you mean and appreciate your point. I have read the authors you mention and it is quite true that some ancient civilizations were in many ways advanced and were more probably than not destroyed using their known technologies. But think about it, what is really known about the existence of Atlantis? There is too much that is only hypothetical. Without totally discounting anything, there should be at least some indication or hint somewhere, about a civilization´s knowledge of the principles necessary to create a given technology, not just some effects, including radiation, that may or may not be the result of any number of possible causes. I really think we could learn, although we don’t seem to do so, from the way the inordinate passions of the human heart– envy, hate, greed… lead to destruction by any means, and our own civilization has gone too far. God bless.

      • jp mills says:

        Time is an illusion with purpose. – Edgar Cayce Civilizations rise and fall – ancient history is lost and found – cycles repeat. There is nothing new under the sun.

      • Bosco says:

        I have to disagree with “L” completely, after following your link, its quite obvious that whoever wrote that rebuttal had an agenda, from just the choice of words used, you can see the intention was to discredit, not qualify in an unbiased fashion.

    • Jake says:

      Credulous? The radioactive skeletons, birth defects, and cordoned off developments aren’t enough evidence? If one looks at the mysteries of ancient architecture alone, advanced weaponry might not seem so far-fetched

      • jackrorabbit says:

        What about a massive CME, or a neutron star blast? Either one of them, if strong enough, could have done as much damage to a human body and left enough radiation as their “killing blow”.

      • Cos says:

        Those could be the effects of historic comet-collisions which can have a much greater impact than any atomic bomb.

  2. James C says:

    The Sumerian tablets have the same writings as this so lots of gods fought like this

  3. Raven says:

    Fascinating! As it was so shall it be? I really hope not Alvin..are we destined to never learn? To never grow beyond that which destroys us but most of all our souls? Will the need for power ensure we never step out in to the light? Sadly it’s possible…

  4. NickKo says:

    THIS is nothing less than AMAZING.
    If the claims of radioactivity are proven to be true & are determined to be from ‘artificial’ means, the implications would be truly PROFOUND.

    My own personal theory, has been that the “Mahabharata” was describing wars in the future….. Sort of like an Ancient Science Fiction novel, if you will. I think this is quite plausible.
    However, new ‘discoveries’ regarding this area & it’s lost history may come about, which may be nothing less than revolutionary.

    - Nick

    • Stephen says:

      Does this mean ancient civilzations might have been technologically more advanced than we are now?

      • NickK0 says:

        Perhaps ancient people were not more advanced, BUT capable of a lot more, that we generally give them credit for today.
        As proof, look at the Ancient Mayan calendar. Or, consider the Antikythera mechanism.

        - Nick

  5. Amethyst Newbridge says:

    The sumerians spoke of this too. They called it an evil wind that swept across the land, from east to the west. An interesting study for sure! :) bright blessings!

    • As does the Hopi. “Mankind in Amnesisa” by Immanuel Velikovsky describes mankind’s disconnection from his past history and the Earth’s chaotic episodes because of disasters and when humans diffused over the Earth.

  6. idiotbox says:

    These are the same beings that have manipulated mankind since the beginning, our so called gods and nearly all worldwide religion can be tied to these entities,
    if you study pre history you will find knowledge of the earth changes occuring today (almost as if they had occurred multiple times before) and when you take the time to connect the dots the big picture all of a sudden makes alot more sense.

  7. Tomwe says:

    The lake is said to be the only crater in the great basaltic formation of India. The lake was initially believed to be of volcanic origin, but now it is recognized as an impact crater created by the hypervelocity impact of either a comet or a meteorite. The presence of plagioclase that has been either converted into maskelynite or contains planar deformation features (PDFs) has confirmed the impact origin of this crater. It is argued that only shock metamorphism caused by hypervelocity impact can transform plagioclase into maskelynite or create PDFs. The presence of shatter cones, impact deformation of basalt layers comprising its rim, shocked breccia inside the crater, and non-volcanic ejecta blanket surrounding the crater are further proof of the impact origin of Lonar crater

  8. I believe the technologies in the pre – Adamic world (before modern man) were far more sophisticated than nuclear weaponry. It was more along the lines the lines of energy weapons, perhaps based on sonic energy which is the most powerful energy in all creation. God created all things through His Word (which is intelligence expressed in the form of sonic energy – “And God SAID”…God does not speak in English or Hebrew or Sanskrit but through an intelligence release of energy which gives shape to that which is being expressed. “and God SAID….and it was so.” The point here is that God’s energy is creative and also therapeutic, Jesus healed people by His Word.

    On the other hand beings with evil intent can release energies for destructive purposes as is the case with nuclear weaponry. But to create a desert as in Rajahstan, India or much bigger ones like the Gobi or Sahara, the size of the nuclear explosion would have to be so huge that it would probably have vaporized the earth, so it is far more likely that scalar weaponry or something similar was employed in those days, the description of which is found in ancient texts like the Mahabharata. Even in modern times, nuclear technology is far inferior to Tesla type technologies that the US military and some other nations like Russia possess. So ancient civilizations in possession of galactic travel technologies would not be using something as primitive as nuclear weaponry. By the way the Bible does record the utter destruction in the past, not only of the earth but the heavens as well. The present heavens are not the same as those from the dawn of creation.

    • Rick says:

      Correct, “Signs of the End”. Scalar weapons may have even been deployed on 9/11. Check out Dr. Judy Wood’s website and see the videos of steel turning to dust (referred to as “dustification” by Dr. Wood):


      We humans appear destined to turn our technologies into extinction devices (or “extinction protocols” as Alvin may choose to say).

      As we ponder what is and what could be, recall what Sir Francis Bacon once said:
      “Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider.”

  9. ashuka says:

    Alvin this is why i appreciate this web site so much. You don’t leave anything out. You have respect for all !!! You can find a lot of what you wrote about in our book “RAMAYAN”. Again i just love this web site and can’t seem to get enough of it.

    God bless

  10. Could be. Rudolf Steiner/ Madame Blavatzky mentioned the sinking of Lemuria and Atlantis. Steiner told that humans misused the powers of advanced techniques and in this way destroyed Atlantis.–The old civilizations knew more then we think of.

  11. TTB says:

    Very nice.

  12. skywalker says:

    great article Alvin :)

    a good friend told me that there is nothing new in this world, we just keep remembering things that were forgoton many years ago

    • PansPermia says:

      Everything new is something old repositioned.

      *Each time history repeats itself, the price goes up.” —Author Unknown

  13. Digu says:

    In ancient
    scriptures like MahaBharatha and
    Ramayan,its been described
    about arrows being showing
    features of Nuclear Fission,that
    is arrows multiplying
    exponentially after being shot. At
    the end of MahaBharatha,within
    18 days of war,millions and
    millions of Infantry,horsem
    en,elephants died. I dont think it
    can happen with sword
    fight,bows and arrows. Must have
    been some mass destruction
    weapons. Scriptures describe about many other things which might appear to be impossible at that era to be achieved but they say it used to be possible because of spiritually uplifted masters who knew the secrets of creation.

  14. andrewkilleen says:

    This subject defies reason.

    Aside from the circumstantial evidence, there is nothing else to support a “nuclear prehistoric civilization” theory without the use of an “all other evidence was destroyed in the blast” cheat.

  15. Michael says:

    Bible Code it … its all there……. anyway …vimanas are chariott/merkevah/ufo (Ezekiel) u should know what they really are by now tis why NASA is shutting down :)

    • Tomwe says:

      Nonsense! I always turn to my reliable source material – The New Sun tabloid. Recently they put out an issue of Bible phophecies decoded by “devout computer scientists” and published them in the May 9th issue! They did this scientifically by “skipping letters at regular intervals – like every 15th letter.” Here’s one you cannot dispute, “The leader of the Mormon Church converts to Islam and orders that the Salt Lake Temple in Utah be rebuilt to face Mecca.”

    • Michael says:

      They have Check out Rabbi Glazerson… but dont get too deviated from the bible (learn hebrew coz NIV is not good sorry) … PS all our names are in there with all the things we did … i checked

    • Michael says:

      Also… that moby dick ”any book produces codes” guy has been debunked as an atheist liar by mathematicians who double checked his work……. youtube rabbi glazerson if u get the software u can literally get anything u wanna know… like how the angel Samael (satan) is in charge of the ishmaelites attacking Israel and the only hope is repentance… Obama is kenyan/muslim Yshua is the Messiah … all our names are in there gadaffi etc. saddam and all our deeds (Osama/911/Judgement) etc.

  16. Brian says:

    Hey Alvin ~ Excellent reads , thanx for that …
    I see you were a bit miff with me on my comments about the whose who in the end of times..
    Just two points to remember which I see youve picked up on :- There Ain’t New History
    Only History Repeating Its Self …

    And America is falling under great evil control relating to the whore , this does not relate to
    All the population but the controllers and way of life … The only nation big enough to bring
    the world to its knees, finacially and militarilly… ( Fact )
    And make no mistake the little toilet I live in is way ahead on the scale of evil …

    Something ive learnt to apply to most negative situations is ~ you cannot have a Boxing match
    with only one Boxer…

  17. “All this has happened before. All this will happen again.”

  18. Jake says:

    Nice post Alvin!
    Michael Tsarion also talks about ancient nukes along with ancient aliens, civilizations, illuminati, etc.

  19. superwingnut says:

    It seems Lot also witnessed the wrath of nuclear weaponary:

    Genesis 19:23 KJV

    “The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar. (24)Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; (25) And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. (26) But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.”

    What are your thoughts Alvin?


    • I think that was fire and brimestone just as the Bible said. It is said, salt is brime and that is why some believe this may be one of the reasons for the high salinity content of the Dead Sea as these cities may have been located near this region.

  20. illuminati says:

    Can`t realy belive that so many “blindly” belive and accept this post.. But then again, i see a lot of bless you and other goodly statments.. The real mystery here is how can people belive in religion in the year 2011??

    • The same way they believe in Harry Potter and Twilight in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011…and if you want to make rational sense out of young girls fainting, or screaming their heads off or standing in line for 6 hours for a premiere about occult fantasy- please be my guest.

      • Agree 1000% Alvin! lol

      • illuminati says:

        well, don`t think (hope) most adult belive harry potter and twilight is a real thing..But it`s allmost the same.. harry potter and other hollywood hits is made to keep all pre occupied just like the bibel is made to keep mankind under controll..I think the only reason humanity holds on to religion is because they are scared of death..

      • Whether it’s real or not real…millions believe it with a fevor greater than most religions. Yet you speak of mind control… what else would you call the fetish for eroticism, drugs, materialsim, violence and occultism in this world? The appetite for vice is insatiable. You’re right on one point; people don’t need a god because they are worshipping everything else besides. What really controls man is a heart changed to vice, sin and ignorance. You want to liberate the mind from the material things in this world than you have to rise to a place above it. We are only free when we have extinguished the flame of desire. As long as desire reins; humans are slaves. You don’t need the Bible to tell you this…look at the Devil card in the Tarot. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Iw-T6vhSDEc/TLGoa-epcqI/AAAAAAAABXE/3kdnJZpq5lg/s1600/the-devil-tarot-card.jpg

      • Gaur Nitai says:

        Wonderfully said. Very Poetic.!! The modern world’s rational people these days believe that everything is happening by chance with no controller in place rather than see the order, perfection and beauty of this world. It’s another matter that we have made a mess of this beautiful world by our attitude of Greed and lust.

        It is also amazing that they accept without any kind of questioning strange and absurd theories like evolution (http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/embryology_02.html, http://quantumpranx.wordpress.com/irreducible-complexity/), big bang (everything came from a point of infinite density, infinite temperature, mathematically unverifiable and theoretically unexplainable).

        Thank you for trying to wake up people in more ways than one.
        May God protect and bless all sincere souls of this world.
        Hare Krishna

      • SC says:

        Thank you Alvin!

  21. Ajithkumar says:


    I actually wrote this article in my website. The only thing I wish to add is; if people are unaware of certain things, then they say that those things don’t exist.

    Say for example, if there is another destruction happening in the world, and a few of us escape it with some documents of how we lived today with aeroplanes, missiles, rockets and cellphones, the future generation would laugh at those things calling it as myth. It is the same thing today.

    Lets face it, man’s age is not just 6000 years like what bible says. Excavations are there which proves that highly civilized people lived much before that. Man’s age is definitely a few million years old, and if we say that the entire development and advancement happened over the last 2 centuries, then we are doing a serious injustice to intelligence of the billions who lived before.

    Like someone said, “there is nothing new in this world, we just keep remembering things that were forgoton many years ago”.

    • Ajithkumar, actually the Bible doesn’t mention any time-frame- that has been assumed from genealogical records but I’m certainly no believer in the million year earth civilization theory either. The world is poised to destroy itself again after only having learned to split the atom after 70 years. If there is a lesson gleaned from this story it’s how much we don’t know about our past and why children should never be allowed to play with matches.

      Nicely penned article and I commend you for bringing your findings to the public’s attention.


      • Ajithkumar says:

        Well Alvin,

        I don’t want to make it as a bible debate. However coming back to the topic of the world poised to destroy itself again, i don’t quite agree. Men always found a reason to fight and destroy themselves. The main cause for that is men always thought of the outside, be it happiness, wealth, God or anything for most of them is an outside phenomenon.

        Happiness doesn’t happen outside, spiritual experience doesn’t happen outside, the true happiness and well being happens inside a man, so search of God, happiness, health and everything should happen within. In ancient indian culture this was emphasized, no matter how big an emperor he is, he should quit after an age, and then go in pursuit of inner happiness, called as sanyas. The yogic culture is based on this, where a person don’t differentiate himself from the rest of the universe, and he should start his spiritual pursuit within.

        The world has often been saved by great yogis. There will always be a yogi or a set of yogis who will redeem things. There will be people who will tend to destroy everything. There is a balance, and whenever the balance of power shifts towards the people who are destructive, it is but natural that the world will face some destruction.

        If you predict that the world is going to destroy, then you are underestimating the strength of good men on earth.

    • Dennis says:

      Ajithhkumar: Dennis here,
      I like your article too! But I ponder if we are looking at two separate events?
      I agree that this planet has been populated before,perhaps destroyed. The evidence is undeniable that a civilization at least equal with us or superior occupied this planet in the past and I speak of the discoveries in Peru and other places.
      King Solomon wrote “There is nothing new under the sun”.
      I wonder if the creation story in Genesis is the after fact of destruction on the earth.
      I wonder when the bible says “Man is made(was made) a little lower than the Angels if those who came before us was far more intelligent than us, was made equal to the Angels, but fell into the trap we are falling into that has been laid for us.
      Finally, The question must asked? Who is out to get us? Who is it that has a bad attitude toward mankind and desires to see us extinct?
      Just a thought
      Many questions, few answers

      • Ajithkumar says:

        Very good thoughts Dennis.

        However in my culture creator and the creation is not different. The creator is all pervading, and man unlike other living beings can realize the God within. In such a case the debate of angels and humans don’t occur. it is the same creator who is within a Yogi and also with in an evil man. Every human being have the potential of realizing the God with in.

        To answer your question, we don’t need evil as a separate entity. If there is goodness then there should be evil. There should be growth and there should be destruction. It is a cycle and it should and will continue. Great men will come to save the man kind and evil men will come to destroy it. Our part in this is to focus on the lesson and not to get carried away. The world cannot sustain itself if there is only goodness everywhere.

    • NK says:

      Very interesting debate. My two cents in the equation is: “We are reading the information and processing it in accordance to our current understanding of technologies. If, at a later stage, mankind has a better (or worse) understanding of weapons of mass destruction – the same text would be interpreted slightly differently. What has happened is verifiable (to the level of forensics we can do). We do not know what happened, all we can do is hazard a guess or interpret it to our current level of intelligence.

  22. Stephen says:


    This post is really fascinating. Mahabharata is not, afterall, a mere legend, but REAL!

  23. PING PONG says:

    I agree with AjithKumar and Ashuka. If u read Edgar Cayce and his theory of 7 chakras, u will realize a single person is enough to turn this Earth into a heaven and Alvin I must really appreciate your faith in all religions. There is one episode in Ramayan where they show that Lord Rama and his brother raise their Kundalini (serpent power ) which is based in the sacrum bone.
    GOD is great ,He has given us the secret of stopping the floods ,stopping the melting of glaciers but Man is ignorant. Alvin I would suggest u to go the site http://www.sahajayoga.org and read the testimonials. It started from India and is now based in 120 countries.

    • Rons says:

      “… u will realize a single person is enough to turn this Earth into a heaven …”.
      Ping Pong, Jesus Christ is that single person. He has already sacrificed himself on the cross for our sins, so that man can start experiencing heavenly joy on Earth, thereby making turning this earth into heavenly paradise. His disciples are already announcing the news all over the world. Sooner than we think, this earth will be turned into heaven for yet another thousand years. Question is – Are we ready ??? The coming Kingdom of Heaven.


  24. Alvin, all I have to say is GOD BLESS YOU! And Thank you for this website, your a true Blessing to many. Keep up the awesome work my Friend.

  25. PING PONG says:

    In India it is very easy to relieve oneself from the heat.If Americans use the theory of footsoak in this searing heat they could easily survive. It’s very easy. take half bucket of water put ice and white rock salt into it and then put your feet into it . It pulls all the heat from your body. Americans practising Sahajayoga know this.

    • Awesome info Thank you. It’s very hot here and I live at a very high elev.

      • SC says:

        Ping Pong, I will try this too. It’s blazing hot and humid here in the East Coast of the US, and I have a foot recovering from surgery. It’s blowing up like a ballon due to the heat. I look forward to trying your remedy. Thank you for the recommendation. Good thoughts to you!

  26. TTB says:

    From my understanding, the physical Father cannot be denied by any theory, faith or institution. We live inside the body of our creator. The seeable universe is but a fraction of the physical make-up, and, in essence, we people can be considered many things. From parasite to God particles. Whatever your fancy, all are partial truths.

    The separation of ‘faiths’ is a sad course we’ve taken. We had the breaking of religion. Muslims/Christians/Jewish all believing in the same God, but warring over details. Muslims and Jews are of the same bloodline, they fight over which son of Abraham was on the alter. That detail determines the inheritors of Israel. Christians, sentencing anyone not accepting their word that Jesus is the Christ, to damnation. They wrongly divide the body of Christ to whatever fits their manner of faith.

    For me, my word says in the final days the ‘requirement’ to get to heaven will be met by all. For it is written every knee shall bow and every tongue confess before the Father. And as the parable of the worker shows us, the ‘boss’ can be pretty merciful at this point. This will show the greatest act of mercy any person will ever witness.

    The church declared war on science, so naturally science did the same. You just can’t call a man like Galileo a heretic and get away with it. lol
    The two edge sword the bibles speak about is the physical with the spiritual. Bringing that duality into unity was suppose to be mankind’s highest endeavor. Instead each sides ‘human representation’ acts like they’re totally right and the other side has no validation.
    We wonder why the world is in such a mess.

    As above, so below. We are a microcosm of the creator. Christ and him crucified.
    Everything else should be interesting information.

  27. Grace says:

    Fantastic article, thanks! I really believe that all the answers are here, we can stop it all from happening again and again and again… Everyone must have faith in whatever goodness they believe in and act accordingly. Oh and we must find a way of stopping those ‘elite’ people/entites, whatever you want to call them, from holding onto their positions of power and from twisting and controlling mans’ future, for the sake of our children we must do this and somehow do it now…
    Thanks Alvin for including this article,
    In peace,

  28. tyler says:

    Lonar Crater is a well known meteoric impact crater. This statement: “No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site”, is entirely false.

    Nuclear blasts don’t generate enough force to create planar deformation features (PDFs). A PDF can be produced only with extreme shock (on the scale of meteor impacts, not nuclear blasts).

  29. Michael says:

    The bible code has and is continuing to predict events accurately… like osamas assasination……. japan earthquake……. 2012 etc. whether u believe in the bible or the bible code… i do not care but ur names in there :) n u will be judged based on ur belief or unbelief and u will be rewarded according to ur works… capeesh “)

  30. blackwatertown says:

    You wrote: “Believe it or not, the deserts on a number of continents today are the result of (prehistoric) nuclear warfare.”
    My response: “Not.”

  31. markosity1973 says:

    Fascinating article you have posted here Alvin.

    I believe that the information that this article proposes should not be shrugged off as mere fantasy or delusional thinking. If one is of the Christian persuasion, then the Bible is the one main presentation of the story of mankind, but it does not mean that it is the only source of history. There are a lot of things in this world that are not mentioned in the bible, but it does not mean that they are untrue. It must be remembered that the old testament is a multi purpose collection of books centered around the nation if Israel, so the historical side of it is only interested in the story of the one nation really. The bible clearly says that mankind was split up and sent to the four corners of the globe with the story of the tower of babel. So for something like this to have happened as far away as India without appearing in the bible is not only possible, it is highly likely to not have any mention if the said event was not big enough to have affected Israel in any physical way.

    And for those who don’t believe in the supernatural et al, even though Alvin and I may disagree over the identity and intentions of the being in the picture on my profile, if you do some research into her you will become to realise that something beyond the laws of science is ocurring on this planet on a fairly regular basis.

    Whether she be the person accepted by Catholicism, Islam and Coptics or someone more sinister, the truth is that her supernatural presence only serves to prove that if she exists, then whether she is good or bad, the rest of what is presented in Christianity must have more than a grain of truth to it, otherwise why would she pose as a figure from the bible and not someone totally different?

  32. Michael says:

    Oh n guys… believe it or not i dont care ……. Hebrew is the oldest language n the Mayans got their info off the Hebrews … Dr Chuck Missler is a highly knowledgeable ex military Physicist Bible Teacher Michael Roods teaching on pagan festivals and the correct calendar is good (we’re in the year 6011/5771) Then theres Bill Schnoebelen EX – super witch/satanist/33rd/90th degree freemason/druidic high priest/mormon/roman catholic priest/knight templar (scottish rite) etc…. to help u outta the occult.

    • I’ve studied mythology and written about it extensively for years and can trace many of the common threads contained in a lot of the global cultural myths back to the Genesis story in the Bible. You can even find elements of the Genesis story in the formation of one of the world’s oldest languages- Chinese. This was almost 1000 years before the Torah was written – so one could not have influenced the other. See: http://students.washington.edu/cbsf/cool/Chinese.swf

    • Nate says:

      Hebrew is NOT the oldest language. Sumerian cuneiform is the oldest known language found so far. Please get your facts straight. Of course, this could change at a moments notice, because discoveries are made almost daily.

      • nickk0 says:

        Nate – To clarify, I think you meant to say that Sumerian cuneiform is the oldest known WRITTEN language.
        I have also read that Sanskrit is another contender, for the oldest (known) written language.

        And as you said, this could change, based upon new discoveries.

        - Nick

  33. Josh says:

    I don’t believe in god but i do believe in the bible, same as i do all the old text, cause honestly they all say the same things, really just take out all the god speech and focus are the actual events they all tell the same stories,, they all have these WMD they all have a great flood somewhere around 8k-12k years ago, they all talk about sky people or flying chariots or chariots of fire, we are a very old race, think about how much we learn to destroy ourselves with in the last 100 years, what makes ya think we couldn’t do it times over in 8000 years?

  34. Morris Townson says:

    Guys, even Robert Oppenheimer, the father of the Nuclear Bomb, studied the ancient Indian Vedics and Bhagavad Gita for his knowledge of nuclear power. When the first nuclear bomb was tested he quoted a passage from the Bhagavad Gita “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”
    Study ancient history for your knowledge and facts.

    This is an excellent article.

  35. Jonathan Blanchard says:

    It’s fallen angel technology. Read the book of Enoch.

  36. Dr.C.P.Trivedi says:

    Secular Scientific Vedic Gita

    The nectarine Soma shed from the lotus lips of Lord Krishna, is light for the ignorant. It has enlightened the great invincible archer Arjuna with self investigation of the truth. The scenario of the world is so wonderful and illusive, that it is beyond the imagination of common men. Even the intellectuals and the Scientists are unable to explain it fully.

    The grief and sorrow of Arjuna as human-being ethically right, his one point decision ‘I will not fight’ was correct, but to surrender against evil is a bigger sin. Lord Krisha enlightened him to follow the Swa- Dharma- self duty as a warrior. He has convinced him from all points of view of life on the earth in a scientific manner with ethics. He has wiped out his fear of death, hell – heaven, and traditions, by saying; ‘the man is friend and foe of self’, he is him self responsible for his fate in life. The action is right of an individual, but he has no right on the fruit, because the fruit of action depends on the past deeds of previous birth, on which no body has control. The hell and heaven is on the earth with reward of actions.

    Lord K‚–‡a said: The ignorance of the truth is the cause of desire and lust of power. The self ego is the cause of conflict and chaos in the society. It has created the condition of Mahabharata war. Arjuna, you are only the instrument as a part of this. In the nature one should follow his own duty.

    He has shown him the comprehensive scientific vision of the Creation. The creation came into the existence, from one, Un-manifest supreme Brahma, and all are merged into the same with end of life. The visible creation is only its one part. Above the visible creation yet another un-manifest imperishable in the cosmos, it is the supreme goal, as supreme bliss. The conflicting statements of the scriptures have created confusion, and for the confused mind, there is no place in this world or in the heaven.

    The creatures of the visible world are subject to rebirth and death, but those who attain Supreme goal, which is beyond the visible world, they never return in this mortal world. The Supreme Soul is invisible, just like air in the ether moving every where. As the ether does not bind the air, in the same fashion the Supreme is not bind with the beings and stand a part. The un-manifest nature of the supreme Brahma has given it a shape of mystery.


  37. Sunny says:

    I have looked at the ancient nuclear Mahabharata war theory many times in the past. Unfortunately, when trying to cross-reference the claims that the skeletons in the IVC were found to be highly radioactive, I have found nothing. No record of the testimony of the original archaeologists or the methods by which they determined it was radioactive. Moreover, it is doubtful that 5000-3000 years later the area and the skeleton will be still be radioactive, as radiation dissipates over time.
    Secondly, that particular excerpt from the Mahabharata is deliberately taken out of context to make it sound like a nuclear blast and nuclear fall out by an ancient alien astronaut theorist David Childress. If one reads the actual passage straight from Gangui’s late 19th translation, one will find while still astonishing and suggestive of WMD and perhaps a nuclear blast, it is not as obvious e.g., “Hair and nails fall out, because rats eat the hair and nails at night” What is true, that the weapon produces a tremendous heat and reduces the cities and armies to ashes, killing millions.

    The reason I would not be surprised if the ancients had nuclear weapons is because it is indeed true the ancient Indians knew about atoms. As the original article says they had measurements for atoms(but lightyears is not true as far as I know) In fact, their atomic theories were virtually modern. They described the smallest length of time as 1/3000000th as the lifetime of certain particles. They explained that there were distinct classes of elementary point like particles which combined as binary, tertiary particles(like Dalton) They even said that these atoms are held together by forces or broken apart by forces. They know atoms were porous and light particles(yes, they said light was made out of particles) could penetrate into them(Remarkable, as this was the insight that lead to Rutherford splitting the atom) They knew about physical state changes as a function of the kinetic energy of particles It is remarkable that a similar sophistication of atomic theory does not happen until modern times. So it makes you think if they got the theoretical part all sorted out, did they also have the practical part sorted out? Did they split the atom?

    There are many physical mysteries the ancient Indians left behind indicating an advanced scientific knowledge even by modern standards. For example, they could mass produce corrosion resistant wrought iron, a famous example being the iron pillar of Delhi. They could produce carbon-nanotube reinforced steel. In fact they even used nanotechnology in their medicine “Ayurveda” where medicines are prepared made out nanoparticles of of gold, silver, mercury, lead, iron to treat serious diseases like cancer. The irony is, we are only starting to do the same today with nanomedicine.

    Other remarkable anachronisms is the grammar of their language itself: Sanskrit. Sanskrit is more precise than a modern programming language. In fact the grammar Sanskrit is based on is considered by modern day logicians, linguists and AI scientists to be the worlds’s first formal computational logic and post mid-20th century.

    So the IVC aside, Ancient atomic physics? Ancient nanotechnology? Ancient computational languages? It is food for thought!

  38. MB says:

    Try to think outside the box. Because certain evidence isn’t presented neatly in a textbook means it’s completely false? Scientific theories always change through time. Compare the science theories you were taught as a child to what children are learning now. Completely different because scientist made new discoveries and changed the text to reflect that! I think the topic of ancient nuclear weapons should be further explored and not be so quickly dismissed because your government or educational institution did not tell you about it. I’m not implying that the government is hiding anything from the public regarding this subject. However I am stating that it may be something they are studying and testing and will not be put into text until the information is proven. Just because something is beyond our comprehension doesn’t mean it never happened or existed. Weren’t past explorers ridiculed for suggesting the world was round? Why does everyone assume that people from past civilizations were primitive? We don’t know everything we need from our past to make such assumptions. We don’t even know how old is man! Therefore I will give this theory of ancient nuclear weapons a chance because the websites that debunk it do not give sufficient evidence or explanation of what made the 44 skeletons to be sprawled on the ground.

    • MB, I couldn’t agree with you more! Our perception of history, especially ancient history, is based on a set of very flawed assumptions, one of which being that the ancients were all a bunch of semi-savage illiterates barely scratching a living. The evidence supporting the idea of an advanced civilization existing in ancient times outweighs the lack of evidence disproving it. What do we really know of the Antediluvian world? Very little, and what is known has been swept under orthodox science’s rug as being inconvenient. Yet, if you dig long enough and keep an open mind the hints at past human “greatness” are all right there. Good post, my friend.

  39. helican says:

    The ancient civilisations like that of india were far more advanced then what we are today. They had teleportation and highly spiritual science which today mere humans are incapable of understanding or even comprehending.

  40. helican says:

    We are talking about civilisations that go 10,000 into human history. A lot has been hidden from us about ancient spiritualism and highly spiritual science. Today mere humans have only known about materlal science. Ancient India, Atlantis and ancient Egypt knew about spiritual science thousands of years before any western civilisations came into existence.

  41. helican says:

    Today mere humans wont be able to truly understand the highly advanced spiritual science that was lost since the last ice age when there was polar shifts and when the ocean swallowed large ancient cities and continents like Dwarka, approximately 12000 years ago. Look at ancient sumeria, Apart from sand dunes and deserts nothing remains. Everything is broken down by nature and weather.

  42. UR Raj says:

    There are so many sites talking these similar things. About Cannibal I am very sure. But it intrigues me that Indian scholars have mothers mentioned all these neither our scientists have written anywhere about the evidences in Rajasthan.
    This prove two things, firstly, the Indian government does not care about these and secondly, our scholars and historians are either immersed in British historical viewpoints or are too lethargic to investigate these new evidences.
    Our historians don’t deviate an inch from what the Britishers told them about us. Isn’t a shame on us? We desperately need a mass movement to restore our correct history and project the facts.
    Thank you.

  43. buddhaflow says:

    Can you link to an original source for what page in the Mahabarata we can find this quote? Because I believe it to be false.

    Either a link in Google Books or an edition and page number. I have heard this quote before, but never been able to verify it was actually a passage in the Mahabarata.

  44. Upadhyay Rathi Raj says:

    If one reads Mahabharata with inquisitive and analytical mind, he can translate several events that are possible to have happened. According to several Indian astronomers and existing historical evidences, time of the war has been calculated to be around 3200 BC.There is a complete list of kings who ruled Hastinapur and around the present Delhi since the reign of King Parikshit (grandson of Arjun). The Tomar kings of northern India were the direct descendants of this lineage till the last king of Delhi married his daughter in a Rajput family as wife of King Prithviraj Chauhan who beat Mohd of Ghori several times before losing at last and executed by him.
    There are evidences aplenty but tragically Indian history and historians
    still follow what the British told. Indian
    scriptures were kept hidden from the
    invading Muslims and then the British.

  45. dev says:

    It sounds truth..but it may also happen that asteroids or other space stones filled with some undiscovered heat or something lava had missed its way and hitted earth….
    Don’t be irritated it’s only mine opinion…

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