Rain on China blast city raises pollution and contamination fears – ground water poisoned from massive blast crater?

China Explosion
August 2015CHINAHeavy rain fell Tuesday on the remains of a Chinese industrial site devastated by giant explosions, complicating clean-up efforts and heightening fears about toxic contamination as ceremonies were held to mark the disaster’s 114 deaths. Around 700 tons of highly toxic sodium cyanide were at the site in the northern port of Tianjin, officials say, and water could spread it more widely. Rainwater could also disperse chemical residues on the ground into the air when it evaporates, and some of the many substances on the scene could react with it. Amid public anger over the disaster more details about the site operator were reported and a senior work safety official was put under investigation. Officials have insisted the city’s air and water are safe, but locals and victims’ relatives have voiced skepticism, while international environment group Greenpeace has also urged transparency. “I’m worried because we don’t know what’s in the rain,” said a taxi driver as he made his way through the morning deluge. “It could be full of poison.”
Out of 40 water testing points, eight showed excess levels of cyanide on Monday, all within a cordoned-off area surrounding the site of the blasts. The highest reading was 28.4 times official standards, said Bao Jingling, chief engineer at the Tianjin environmental protection bureau. The chemical had been detected at another 21 points and cyanide traces were detected at four other seawater testing points, he added. Authorities have built a dam of sand and earth around the blasts’ central 100,000-square-metre (120,000-square-yard) “core area” to prevent pollutant leakage, Bao said, and drained water from pits and pipelines to make space for the rain. Sodium cyanide, which has a variety of industrial uses including gold mining, is a toxic white crystal or powder. It can release hydrogen cyanide gas, used in gas chamber executions in the U.S. Acute exposure at lower concentrations can cause weakness, nausea and eye and skin irritation while chronic exposure can affect the cardiovascular and central nervous systems, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

“We are paying high attention to the rain forecast for the coming couple of days,” Bao told reporters. “We are making plans for the treatment of tens of thousands of tons of polluted water in the pit in the core area.” The air would be “closely monitored” at 18 testing points, and if excessive levels of cyanide or organic compounds were detected the public would be alerted promptly, he promised. But residents are skeptical. “How can we say that the environment is clear?” asked Chen Xingyao, who lived near the blast site and was protesting outside the hotel where the press conference was being held, to demand government compensation for her ruined apartment. “Also, if only the government will test the environment, nobody can know whether it’s good or not.” Amid public anger over the blast and the handling of the aftermath, Chinese media — which are effectively controlled by the authorities — have pointed blame squarely at local officials and the company involved, rather than at any systemic failings in the Communist-ruled country.
The warehouse owner, Ruihai International Logistics, had a license to handle dangerous chemicals at the time of the blast, but there were questions about its certificates and it had previously operated without one, the official Xinhua news agency reported. A total of 10 executives from the firm, including its chief executive, have been detained by police, reports said. The head of China’s national work safety watchdog, Yang Dongliang — a former vice mayor of Tianjin — has been put under investigation for “suspected severe violation of discipline and the law,” the Communist party’s internal anti-graft watchdog said without giving details. The phrase is normally a euphemism for corruption. According to state broadcaster CCTV, a senior fire brigade official said there had been a total of 3,000 tons of dangerous chemicals on the site, in 40 different categories. –Economic Times of India
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18 Responses to Rain on China blast city raises pollution and contamination fears – ground water poisoned from massive blast crater?

  1. Judyc says:

    I believe that something sinister was going on within that building where the cyanide was, and that there were several stories below the shop front so to speak and when this blew up, it blew up the entire infrastructure, the floors below ground , leaving it an empty shell/ cavity. I do not believe that explosion took out that much earth, otherwise, where is it now?

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  2. Yellow Bird says:

    Chinese investigative article just published, badly translates but very interesting even with guessing at content
    http://tthz.huanqiu.com/viewTouTiao.html?newId=6612368&f=jrtt&tt_from=weixin&tt_group_id=5387457738
    Tianjin scene of the explosion measured nerve gas can cause cardiac arrest
    Source: Global Network Review 08-19 07:07 CCTV Network News (Focus):
    “After the explosion, the air accident area is in tight monitoring, will support a number of daily air monitoring teams. The morning of August 16, the Prosecution and the players task is to air explosive core area sampled. To ensure safety, before entering the core area, all the players, including reporters, including must wear protective clothing, air respirators to wear. Since the SCBA oxygen for only half an hour, Prosecution and players must quickly complete the test work program areas” … “After doing protection work, the reporter to follow the Detects team, came to the core area of ​​500 meters from the explosion staging ground. Since the front has no roads, all personnel must get off here. Just at this time, vehicle monitoring system and handheld monitors also issued a warning sound, suggesting that the air of harmful gases has exceeded the maximum value of the instrument can measure.” … “Beijing Public Security Fire Department deputy chief Li Xinghua introduction: “This morning tour to collect the results, the results of detection is almost the same as yesterday, or sodium cyanide and nerve gas both toxic gases have reached these two indicators. the highest value. “… “When the core area of ​​the explosion of air monitoring, in addition to sodium cyanide, a substance also found that nerve gas, Ph.D. door presentation, a variety of hazardous chemicals, explosive areas are likely to produce such substances. He said: “These substances can produce alkaline water or in case of gas and produce nerve gas, such as sodium cyanide and some sodium sulfide, other substances will react at high temperatures during the explosion, produce toxic gases, such as bis DMDS. nerve gas when inhaled, can be nerve cell function, to inactivate the enzyme, the other can lead to heart and other respiratory arrest leading to death. “…
    “In addition to dangerous chemicals, sewage generated in the explosion also affects the hearts of many people.” … “Currently, the sewage treatment plant workers are maintenance equipment, and put before the explosion of sewage emptying storage to free up space to accommodate sewage caused by the accident. In fact, due to the cyanide and COD exceeded, before entering the accident area sewage wastewater treatment plant, even after two pretreatment.”

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  3. Yellow Bird says:

    just finished reading a recap of Bhopal Disaster 1984:
    http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2014/12/bhopal-the-worlds-worst-industrial-disaster-30-years-later/100864/
    In FocusDec 2, 201428 Photos
    Bhopal: The World’s Worst Industrial Disaster, 30 Years Later
    ALAN TAYLOR
    Thirty years ago, on the night of December 2, 1984, an accident at the Union Carbide pesticide plant in Bhopal, India, released at least 30 tons of a highly toxic gas called methyl isocyanate, as well as a number of other poisonous gases. The pesticide plant was surrounded by shanty towns, leading to more than 600,000 people being exposed to the deadly gas cloud that night. The gases stayed low to the ground, causing victims throats and eyes to burn, inducing nausea, and many deaths. Estimates of the death toll vary from as few as 3,800 to as many as 16,000, but government figures now refer to an estimate of 15,000 killed over the years. Toxic material remains, and 30 years later, many of those who were exposed to the gas have given birth to physically and mentally disabled children. For decades, survivors have been fighting to have the site cleaned up, but they say the efforts were slowed when Michigan-based Dow Chemical took over Union Carbide in 2001. Human rights groups say that thousands of tons of hazardous waste remain buried underground, and the government has conceded the area is contaminated.

    …yet in TianJin, authorities were miraculously able to get all 700 tons Cyanide cleaned up in just a very few days??
    and when the rains came last night, no new casualties because not a tiny bit was missed??
    and total loss of life still stands at a mere 114 + 70 or so still missing????

    what phenomenal good news! …but you know what they say about something that sounds too good to be true…

    so now to me its looking like either:
    A) “Cyanide” reports actually China govts way of saying “BACK OFF WORLD, we’ve got the weapon & we are not afraid to use it”… only maybe they really don’t (hopefully)
    = OR =
    B) There is an utterly horrifying reason why new eyewitness reports out of China have dwindled to a mere trickle since yesterday. i still have not seen one single on-location update since the earliest reports of skin & lips tingling when the white foam swirled up all over everything late last night. And it seems like the same half dozen pix are swirling all over the web ever since.
    even if Cyanide is not truly involved…. millions of pounds of other nasty toxins ARE.
    SO what is going on in TianJin right now TODAY??

    ope, nmd… CNN’s Will Ripley just said “Will Ripley ‏@willripleyCNN 9m9 minutes ago
    Port of #Tianjin operating normally again. A vital cog in #China growth & global trade.”
    and then he said he’s reporting live from the Port and posted a couple Instagram pictures to prove it, so shucks, i guess we’re all good again-
    Alls Well That Ends Well and all that. Hooray for China’s happy happy ending, and all the rest of the world’s too… carry on, carry on, what a relief, back to business as usual

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  4. Yellow Bird says:

    Finally, Fergus Ryan has updated:

    “Fergus Ryan ‏@fryan 2h2 hours ago
    Reporter sees large viscous bubbles coming out of water when droplets land from trees above. ”

    Fergus Ryan ‏@fryan 2h2 hours ago
    The Lawcourt Evening news reporter says some droplets got in their eye causing a burning sensation.

    Fergus Ryan ‏@fryan 1d1 day ago
    Weird white foam on streets near #TianjinBlasts as rain falls. @caixin journo feels burning sensation on face & arms. (Expert says the white foam on streets near #TianjinBlast site is normal )

    Fergus Ryan retweeted
    Alan Mac Ailbhe 蓋艾倫 ‏@28481k 23m23 minutes ago
    Strange burns on volunteers for #TianjinBlast after soaked in rain. RT @letscorp


    (**someone said this fellah has psoriasis, i cant tell which statement is true from pix**)

    i will keep posting what i can find… it disappears as fast as it comes up, no way to verify anything later, now even some cited news articles are strategically revised. Ugh

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  5. markanto says:

    $9 Million Fraud Judgment Against Antony Gordon In Federal Court
    This fraud judgment has led to Antony Gordon’s Chapter Seven bankruptcy, which is a straight liquidation.
    This (2:13-ap-01536-DS 1568931 Ontario Ltd., an Ontario (Canada Corporati v. Gordon et al) looks like a $9 million dollar fraud judgment in federal court against Rabbi Chanan (Antony) Gordon (an attorney, motivational speaker, and hedge fund manager).
    http://www.lukeford.net/blog/?p=59030

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  6. Yellow Bird says:

    stumbled across this story on what appears to be a private blog,
    auto-translate makes hash of most of it, but its the last paragraph thats a doozy:

    “I repeat that my colleagues treated a real case. (**chinese law against rumor**)
    Period of five workers to repair clogged drains, after a worker down, suffered a hydrogen sulfide poisoning, immediately fell to the ground.
    Another person to reach out and pull him, the same ground.
    Outside of the three men have a captain, asked to evacuate immediately.
    Ran 800 meters away, the captain called another team went to rescue two people fall, when he realized that there may be toxic, so they each took a wet towel over his nose and mouth rushed to the scene, and the rest 1 person continue to evacuate and the police.
    Last result: 4 dead, 1 person survived.
    The surviving people are very painful, experienced several psychological intervention, but he survived.”

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  7. Dennis E. says:

    Heck of a blast. Consider the crater.
    Look at all the damaged container cars.
    Also, consider the high rises that seem undamaged, except maybe the broken glass.

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  8. Yellow Bird says:

    Chinese Insider reports include
    > accusations that RuiHai was essentially a Good Old Boys Club & blatantly run criminally (no secret) since its inception
    > Japan denouncing China’s poor emphasis on proper firefighter training “Tianjin is China bombings professional firefighters media propaganda, China Analyst Kaori Fukushima think really just a lack of expertise “motorcycle fireman.” Ms Fukushima also criticizes “Fire Recruits low level of education, to 2010 Shanghai Fire recruits, for example, more than high school and college level in 1213 80% of people, fire recruits salary this year was 17,000 yuan (RMB), the risk of subsidy 300 yuan, “combined ratio factory workers in Guangdong treated worse, so has been a lack of people, only 2 firefighters per 10,000 residents” (**this also explains why many were just kids)
    > Japan also calling for independent testing to identify what chems could have triggered the “Big Bang”– they want small test explosions of chemicals from the site in order to gauge what actually took place (**conjecture: Japan suspicious the BIG Bang not actually caused by burning chems??)
    > 2015/08/18 – Tianjin sent to the affected residents 6000 yuan subsidy majority of the owners refused to receive. Hundreds still protesting in streets
    > 2015/08/19 – Families of dead/injured/missing firefighters also still loudly protesting, ignoring authorities requests to “behave”… “”They kept telling us, ‘Do not give the Chinese people lose face,'” Yang Jie told the “Financial Times” said on the phone, “I just want them to find my son.” Is working with other families of missing persons, he calls together Theory and local government officials.”
    > Criticism of Premier for failing to show up until 4 days after the explosions “Although Tianjin “Ground Zero” is just an hour’s drive from Beijing, but the Chinese premier Li Keqiang, four days after the incident rushed to the scene of the explosion, which reflects the delicate political dilemma faced by Beijing. Li Keqiang arrived in Tianjin yesterday afternoon, but usually, after China disaster, he will immediately rushed to the disaster scene, playing some kind of “total sympathy” role. (**reminds me of what followed another tragic event with a similar date)
    and finally,
    more reports of skin reactions to chems in the rains:
    2015/08/18 – “August 18, 2015, Tianjin, Tianjin after the “8.12” explosion, 18 am first rains, Choi new reporters to the road in the rain, observed a large number of abnormal white foam. Reporter reaction appears different symptoms: facial burning sensation at the lips; at arm felt “spicy”; left hand joints hot itch.”

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  9. Beano says:

    Clever of Americans to take manufacturing to China and let them pollute their land. That i what I thought it was all about.

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  10. Yellow Bird says:

    New tweet from Wall Street Journal
    ‏@WSJ
    “Health threat from Tianjin blast depends on mix of chemicals, wind and rain in next days” http://on.wsj.com/1Jk4cSG
    there is also an embedded image stating
    150 tons: Amount of Sodium Cyanide REMOVED from Blast Area

    as in… what happened to the rest?
    and why isnt anyone talking about all the other extremely poisonous chemicals anymore?

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  11. Yellow Bird says:

    tianjin residents woke this morning to discover 1000s of dead fish washed up to shore:



    Official Word: Could be many causes. Preferred explanation: Hypoxia due to sea doors being closed to prevent polluted water escape. um… ok?
    “According to China’s State Oceanic Administration briefing on the 20th, the Tianjin Port basin waters three stations detected a trace of cyanide, volatile phenol 5 stations detected. There is no evidence that dead fish and explosions (are connected).” no, no of course not.

    “1.2 In accordance with existing media pictures and videos, dead fish are mainly spot Ji (Konosirus punctatus) and yellow carp (Setipinna tenuifilis) two kinds. Both are the sea fish sea life, but an intended spot鰶water inlet estuary or freshwater area, while yellow carp living in the sea area only.”

    so, 2 main varieties have washed up together in mounds, but these species do not normally share the same water habitat. Spot Ji tends to be a shoreline fish but Yellow Carp is from farther out, higher salinity parts of bay…. could be what they share is a common vulnerability to one or more highly toxic chem exposed by the blasts and washed down to sea by the rains of 2 days ago. This is especially scary given that these were fish allready adapted to living in Bohai Sea- one of the worst polluted ocean bodies on earth.
    suspect more varieties of sea life to begin washing up very soon

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  12. Yellow Bird says:

    Recent tweets from Beijing News Corresoondent Andrew Jacobs ‏@AndrewJacobsNYT
    22h22 hours ago
    Residents line up to enter homes but they have minimal protection. One woman said “white dust” all over place.
    Displaced blast residents, allowed to fetch items from ruined apartments, say clothing on floor “eaten” by chemicals.

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  13. Yellow Bird says:

    BREAKING AND ALLREADY CENSORED:
    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/four-new-fires-break-out/2065548.html#.Vda9EbHTw3A.twitter
    Just posted Link is allready broken, said 4 new fires have broken out, 3 within Central Blast Zone and 1 “from automobile distribution point nearby”.

    AND #TianjinBlast just got purged big time again, as i am typing… Entire feed now utterly sanitized… err excuse please, i mean to say “Harmonized”. Only most flattering bits remain, a handful of approved headline tweets for each day.
    Everything else- 1000’s of tweets- GONE. Every mention of the rains. Nothing at all 8/16 & only a few tweets from each other day… Like news never was. History “erased”
    am nervous to refresh #Tianjin feed as same probly applies.
    this goes wayy beyond the continual cherrypicking.

    ________
    very 1st new tweet after the purge is the same story that triggered(?) the purge
    TODAY ‏@TODAYonline 12m12 minutes ago
    JUST IN: Four new fires break out at site of China’s #TianjinBlast site: Xinhua http://tdy.sg/1Nzgj06
    http://www.todayonline.com/world/four-new-fires-break-out-site-chinas-tianjin-blast-site-xinhua
    _____________
    ((**this was last night, my web connection inexplicably went down before i could click send–
    refreshed #TianJinBlast this morning to find all mention of last nights state reporting of new fires wiped clean… only 9 of 101 new tweets on #TianJin posted, all highly screened, no new info))

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  14. Yellow Bird says:

    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/tianjin-aftermath-live-rabbits-pigeons-chicken-placed-near-blast-site-check-poison-levels-643796
    “Chinese authorities placed live rabbits, pigeons and chickens near the Tianjin blast site in an effort to calm the public who were worried about the presence of poisonous chemicals in the area. The animals and bird were alive for more than two hours, Reuters reported.”

    …there is more than one way to interpret this info. what if “only” was inserted into the last sentence?
    i raised rabbits when i was growing up, from personal experience i can tell how fragile they are.
    they make excellent Canaries.

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  15. Yellow Bird says:

    There’s just been an explosion at a 3rd chemical plant on BoHai Sea:
    first there was TianJin, and then Anshan 100mi or so to NE (news of that almost totally suppressed)
    now BBC reports this one farther south at Zibo in Shandong Province
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34029202
    “Large flames could be seen from the site after the blast in the city of Zibo. Nine people are reported injured.
    The People’s Daily said a warehouse at the Runxing chemical plant exploded. There is a residential area about 1km from the plant.
    Saturday’s blast took place near the city of Zibo, the South China Morning Post reported, quoting a villager who said that he saw a huge fireball and then heard two explosions.
    The state paper said that the fire had been brought under control by late on Saturday night.”

    which means since the state paper is reporting this to BBC, it is probably all anyone out of China is going to hear of it unless its of a scale comparable to TianJin. Same as with Anshan earlier this month.
    but… it seems very troubling to me that 3 chemicals facilities along the same shoreline have had explosions in 2 weeks. china is a very large country, so for geographic relevance this particular shoreline is across BoHai Sea from the Koreas.

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