British Big Pharma warns Ebola vaccine will come ‘too late’ to halt spread

October 2014AFRICA One of the world’s biggest pharmaceutical companies says a vaccine to tackle Ebola will “come too late” to curb the current epidemic, as the UK and other European countries begin screening passengers for the virus at international airports. GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), a British multinational that produces pharmaceuticals, biologics and vaccines, said a working vaccine would not be readily available until late 2015, by which time the epidemic may have spread far beyond West Africa.  The statement follows warnings from the United Nations and World Health Organization (WHO) that there could soon be more than 10,000 new cases of Ebola per week if the spread of the disease is not curbed quickly. “We either stop Ebola now or we face an entirely unprecedented situation for which we do not have a plan,” said the UN’s Deputy Ebola Coordinator Anthony Banbury on Wednesday. “The WHO advises within 60 days we must ensure 70 percent of infected people are in a care facility and 70 percent of burials are done without causing further infection,” he added.
Earlier this week, British Prime Minister David Cameron signed off on deploying 750 troops to Sierra Leone to help set up medical treatment centers and to the assist staff on the ground to contain the virus. He also urged the international community to dedicate more resources to the relief effort in West Africa, after UN Secretary- General Ban Ki-moon criticized leaders for paying a mere $100,000 into a $1 billion UN trust fund to fight the virus. “This is the biggest health problem facing our world in a generation. It’s very likely to affect a number of the countries that are here today,” Cameron said at the EU-Asia summit in Milan on Thursday. “Britain in my view has been leading the way. The action we’re taking in Sierra Leone, where we are committing well over £100 million, 750 troops, we are going to be training 800 members of health staff in Sierra Leone, providing 700 beds.” He also said the international community should “look at their responsibilities and their resources” to ensure the disease did not spread to Europe. Professor Hill, who is currently developing an Ebola vaccine, hit out at drug companies including GSK, Sanofi, Merck and Pfizer in September, arguing a vaccine wasn’t developed because there was “no business case” for it. “The problem with that is, even if you’ve got a way of making a vaccine, unless there’s a big market, it’s not worth the while of a mega-company,” Hill told the Independent. –RT
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24 Responses to British Big Pharma warns Ebola vaccine will come ‘too late’ to halt spread

  1. niebo says:

    Of course it will, but . . . we knew this already, right? Zmapp is gone

    and we have the director of the DHS “selling” the lie that the southern border only appears to be porous

    while the US sends soldiers to the “Hot Zone”

    so that Ebola is guaranteed to return (again and again) to our soil, even as the World Bank warns about the economic consequences

    THEY want this to happen. Some say that they NEED this to happen:

    This system has FAILED, and the only way that THEY can maintain control is to kill off as many people as they can by pestilence, because they cannot SEIZE power; they are outnumbered. To put it another way: Fewer people = fewer guns.

    There, I said it. This is WHY they ALLOW this into our country, encourage its spread, and do NOTHING to stop it; it is NOT incompetence that leads to blunder after screw-up, but it makes everyone feel better to think that it is. Our governments are NOT stoopid! But they will kill us all by pretending that they are.

    Just sayin’.


  2. Yellow Bird says:

    here’s some IMPORTANT detailed info on the disease process– i havent seen it put like this before. if this is typically how the illness progresses, it would seem to answer my questions about how Not-Ill the Dallas nurses were. But, why has this not been broadly published long before now?? It’s something everyone should know- yet really havent been told.
    “…“Usually, an individual is not sick for three to five days after the onset of symptoms, which will fool you,” Dr. Ribner said. “You say, ‘Oh, you’re not going to be that sick.’ Then, around Day 5 to 7, they really crash. Their blood pressure goes down, they become stuporous to unresponsive, and they start to have renal and liver failure. This correlates with the enormous viral load, which is just attacking every organ in the body.”
    Ebola patients lose enormous amounts of fluid from diarrhea and vomiting, as much as five to 10 quarts a day during the worst phase of the illness, which lasts about a week. Doctors struggle to rehydrate them, replace lost electrolytes and treat bleeding problems. Some patients need dialysis and ventilators.
    A concern for health workers is that as patients grow sicker, the levels of virus in their blood rise and they become more and more contagious. The researchers at Emory tested patients and found high levels of the virus in their body fluids and even on their skin.
    At the peak of illness, an Ebola patient can have 10 billion viral particles in one-fifth of a teaspoon of blood. That compares with 50,000 to 100,000 particles in an untreated H.I.V. patient, and five million to 20 million in someone with untreated hepatitis C.
    “That helped us to understand why, if this is only spread by body fluids, why it is more contagious than hepatitis A, B and C, and H.I.V.,” Dr. Ribner said. “It’s just that there’s so much more virus in the fluids they put out.”…”


    • Yellow Bird says:

      excellent & rather different perspectives offered in the musings on this blog, written by a pair of virologists in New Zealand:
      linking specifically to their recent article on the absolute wretchedness of certain peoples propensity to post FAKE images when REAL ones aren’t available. just further mucks things up with sensational disinformation intended to spread panic


      • Yellow Bird says:

        btw, hope everyone will look the above link up– you will recognize certain images flying around the web for what they really are, including SMALLPOX, DENGUE BULLAE, LUKEMIA CUTIS (note that Warfarin/Heparin Induced Thrombocytopenia-sadly not uncommon- can look identical), and probable SEVERE BLISTER DERMATITIS… NONE of which have the slightest to do with ebola or its skin manifestations, which don’t seem to be particularly similar.
        in Ebola, sources im finding from previous outbreaks mostly refer to petechiae (acute viral-induced scurvy), cherry coloured palate, extremely bloodshot eyes. possible internal bleeding is said to occur in approx 40-50% cases, not typically enough to cause death- but occuring when death is not far off from total body system failure.

        this highly detailed lecture from a clinical pathologist covers all the main coagulation disorders. here is what this professor has to say about the type of bleeding specifically seen in hemorrhagic disease:
        “INCREASED VASCULAR FRAGILITY (“non-thrombocytopenic purpuras”, etc.): bleeding problems despite normal platelet count, bleeding time, PT, aPTT, TT, FDP)
        Bleeding from fragile vessels, with normal platelets and coagulation, is seldom serious.
        Massive bleeding is rare. Vascular fragility is more likely to cause skin bruises, dependent petechiae, gum bleeding (eating, toothbrushing), hematuria, nosebleeds, GI bleeds.
        Causes include:
        INFECTIONS (meningococcemia, gonoccemia, scarlet fever, SBE, other forms of sepsis, rickettsial disease, the many viral hemorrhagic fevers, Ebola being only one) that particularly damage endothelium. The bleeding usually won’t be massive, but it warns of grave systemic illness…
        The reasons for bleeding in hemorrhagic fevers (including dengue, which is very common in much of the world) are still being worked out.
        * In dengue, both the virus and the antibodies we make against it seem to inhibit platelet aggregation (Blood 114: 261, 2009)…”

        it is a good thing knowing what is expected as well as what is not expected.


  3. Doccus says:

    Although I couln’t find the link, I know they’ve been running Phase 1 and 2 trials on a Zaire and MArburg vaccine since 1996.. so why is this fact now being hidden in the news?


    • Judy Clarke says:

      The USA has had the Ebola vaccine from the moment it was released, many years back, that is why the first two Dr’s were flown back to the USA who miraculously improved and were discharged seemingly cured. They are not going to let the world know they already have a cure, because they want death to occur, sorry to upset people, but this has been meticulously planned. Even to the most recent decision to cut the electricity grid,blaming in on the meteorite flying past Mars, so we can no longer communicate via computer and phone. We have strength in numbers and knowing, so to cut that….bang goes the grid. Its a whopper move and chances are it wont happen, but we will see just how calculating they are. So get a communicative Plan B in order, just in case.


  4. Anne says:

    FROM GHANA: Ebola is not real and the only people who have gotten sick are those who got shots from the Red Cross. ARCHIVE, POST, POST AND RE-POST!

    Nana Kwame wrote: “People in the Western World need to know what’s happening here in West Africa. THEY ARE LYING!!! “Ebola” as a virus does NOT Exist and is NOT “Spread”. The Red Cross has brought a disease to 4 specific countries for 4 specific reasons and it is only contracted by those who receive treatments and injections from the Red Cross. That is how Liberians and Nigerians have begun kicking the Red Cross out of their countries and reporting in the news the Truth. Now bear with me.”

    Most people jump to “depopulation” which is no doubt always on the mind of the West when it comes to Africa. But I assure you Africa can NEVER be depopulated by killing 160 people a day, when thousands are born per day. So the real reasons are much more tangible.

    1: This vaccine implemented sickness being “called” Ebola was introduced into West Africa for the end goal of getting troops on the ground in Nigeria, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. If you remember, America was just trying to get into Nigeria for “Boko Haram” #BULLSHIT, but that fell apart when Nigerians started telling the truth. There ARE NO GIRLS MISSING. Global support fell through the floor, and a new reason was needed to get troops into Nigeria and steal the new oil reserves they have discovered.

    Reasons 2 and 3 are above.

    Reason 4: Last but not least, the APPEARANCE of this Ebola “pandemic” (should Americans not catch on) will be used to scare the countless millions into taking an “Ebola vaccine” which in reality , is the pandemic. Already they have started with stories of how it has been brought to the U.S. and has appeared in Dallas – how white doctors were cured, but black infected are not being allowed to be treated, etc..

    ALL that will do is make blacks STRIVE to get the vaccine, because it appears that the “cure” is being held back from blacks. They will run out in droves to get it, and then there will be serious problems. With all we have seen revealed about vaccines this year, you would think we learned our lesson. All I can do is hope so, because they rely on our ignorance to complete their agendas.

    Ask yourself: If Ebola really was spread from person to person, instead of controlled spread through vaccination – then WHY would the CDC and the US Government continue to allow flights in and out of these countries with absolutely no regulation, Or At All? We have got to start thinking and sharing information globally, because they do not give the true perspective of the people who live here in West Africa.

    They are lying for their own benefit and there aren’t enough voices out there with a platform to help share our reality. Hundreds of thousands have been killed, paralyzed and disabled by these and other “new” vaccines all over the world, and we are finally becoming aware of it. Now what will we do with all this information?


    • Yellow Bird says:

      going out on a creaking limb now, just me and my tinfoil hat… i must admit i am lately wondering whether the real ebola outbreak burned itself out within its usual timeframe months ago. say, back in august. might we the world actually be witnessing mass extermination due to some chemical toxin spread through the “liquid bleach disinfectant” which is abundantly sprayed on everyone & everything in sight? which population subset has taken most precautions yet has experienced heaviest rate of casualties per capita… particularly in Liberia…
      sheer speculation, obviously


      • Judy Clarke says:

        or the water they are drinking or the vaccinations they are given or the food they are fed, who knows. But GOD is watching and those responsible for genocide will go to hell


      • Yellow Bird says:

        plenty more wonderings on the way…

        could many (most?) of these cases be attributed to a different pathogen, perhaps newly mutated to a more virulent, hemorrhagic form- perhaps a pathogen NOT readily transmittable from human to human but mosquito-vectored instead?
        Wild speculation here… but a hemorrhagic malaria would spread like wildfire in mosquito-rich tropical regions yet potentially take years to develop significantly elsewhere. it would not readily travel via airlines aside from an isolated incident here and there…
        also wondering: how many of the several thousand cases so far labelled “confirmed” have been confirmed via documented lab testing, and how many are confirmed empirically instead? Two vastly different methods which can certainly lead to vastly differing mass diagnoses. could there potentially be 2 separate pathogens concurrently wreaking havoc across West Africa, one of which has gone “under the radar” so to speak by having a visible manifestation extremely similar to the definitively identified other?
        granted, these suppositions require some rather long leaps of conjecture… but how far must we leap in order to continue believing that somewhere between 10,000- 30,000 (depending which Official Numbers one accepts) have been infected by ebola alone, with only the ONE small Lagos outbreak of less than 2 dozen occurring at any time, anywhere, since the West African epidemic began?
        Apparently there are 4 types of malaria commonly recognized-
        here are the 2 usual culprits:
        –> P.vivax is most common, symptoms typically flu-like (fever, chills, fatigue, diarrhea) It is a serious illness but not typically deadly
        –> P malariae is also typically non-fatal, usually manifesting with a high fever & chills

        now for a look at the other 2 varieties:
        –> P. falciparum is most lethal, “…The individual infected by this parasite experiences fatigue, dizziness, abdominal pain, aching muscles, enlarged spleen, seizures, sore back, joint pain, vomiting, nausea, fever, headache, anaemia and some neurological symptoms as well. Since it is the severest of all the four malaria types, it become important that this be checked, diagnosed and treated on time. This infection also has an adverse affect on brain and the central nervous system. Many times, changes in the levels of consciousness, paralysis and convulsions can also occur.”
        –> P. ovale is mainly specific to the West African region, only rarely elsewhere. tho apparently it is a relapsing/remitting type which indicates it is not particularly deadly.

        Additionally, the CDC has listed a 5th type of malaria:
        –> P. knowlesi (an intriguing name, curious as to its derivation) which is also considered to cause far more serious illness with deadly outcome, a la P. falciparum

        googling “hemorrhagic malaria” brings up numerous research articles discussing known precedents. P falciparum has been recognized the most in hemorrhagic cases, however this article indicates even “ordinary” P vivax is now being seen to cause bleeding:

        Click to access 18_19_correspondence.pdf

        here is some speculation down similar lines by a Sudanese researcher, who posted his question back in January:
        He asked:
        “Imadeldin E Aradaib
        University of Khartoum, Sudan
        What is the association between Malaria and Hemorrhagic Fever Virus infection since all VHF cases are always Malaria positive?
        Much thanks.”

        The answers he received were not extremely helpful. 2 respondents wanted to know whether he had enough expertise to be asking, but did not attempt to answer his question.
        In May he then reposted his query, adding:
        “I am still looking forward to hear from somebody who has been experiencing the same situation” (!)
        and followed it with
        “Do you thing it is associated with the immunosupression?”
        No one offered their thoughts on the subject. A pity, because i think his query was valid and perhaps was onto something important.

        Here the CDC makes a brief description of types plus lists certain severe symptoms:
        “…Determination of the infecting Plasmodium species for treatment purposes is important for three main reasons. Firstly, P. falciparum and P. knowlesi infections can cause rapidly progressive severe illness or death while the other species, P. vivax, P. ovale, or P. malariae, are less likely to cause severe manifestations.” “… patients who have one or more of the following clinical criteria (impaired consciousness/coma, severe normocytic anemia [hemoglobin < 7], renal failure, acute respiratory distress syndrome, hypotension, disseminated intravascular coagulation, spontaneous bleeding, acidosis, hemoglobinuria, jaundice, repeated generalized convulsions, and/or parasitemia of ≥ 5%) are considered to have manifestations of more severe disease…"

        In the words of a certain well-known doctor:


  5. suez62 says:

    It will come after thousands, or millions have been killed off. Then they will bring on the shot to finish off the rest of us who happened by the grace of God to have survived Ebola. One way or another, they want most little peons dead, dead, dead!!! Only a few left to be their slaves!!! 😦


  6. niebo says:

    Thanks, Alvin.


  7. Yellow Bird says:

    seriously alvin… i am banned? which means you’ve deemed my input “spam”? im quite disappointed… we may be on somewhat differing pages, but i did think we were both Truth Seekers on a quest for clues to What Is Real
    i have posted only items i genuinely believe to be relevant – and i do believe that all is not as it is officially intended to appear.
    will continue checking your posts without attempting further comments. but if at some point you decide i may have landed on the right track after all, i hope you will let me know. i respect your intelligence & appreciate the insights posted on this board.


    • What banned? Don’t know what you’re talking about. If you’re talking about your comments being approved – here the deal – I have 9,700 comments in que I haven’t even looked at…some of yours included.

      It’s called been busy…In the words of Lady Jessica to Paul Atreides, “Calm Yourself.”


      • Yellow Bird says:

        lol, nevrmnd… something was glitching in the system earlier– 2 of my posts vanished completely and i figured you finally got tired of me!
        apologies. calm now.


  8. Yellow Bird says:

    i mean, that was 2 new posts from earlier today- they disappeared as soon as i clicked send, which never happened before. i made an assumption and shouldnt have. but i know ive been blowing up your comments section a lot lately. bad ‘Bird… no more quick conclusions next time the board acts a tad bit wonky


  9. Yellow Bird says:

    hmmm, ok… i managed to retrieve a copy of the 2nd desaparecido, which was a rewriting of the 1st. attempted to repost just now- and whaja know, GONE AGAIN!
    this is really odd? seems to be something about THIS particular post. its not particularly long but it does contain several interesting links
    alvin, what do you think might be going on? i put up a couple other quick thoughts today ok…


  10. Yellow Bird says:

    ok, and this last note can be seen. Just not any of the posts with those particular twitter links.
    wondering now whether anyone else is experiencing similar difficulties

    gonna try one more time… because this really seems quite Unusual


  11. Yellow Bird says:

    Alvin its these links! But why…?


  12. Yellow Bird says:

    ok, no links this time.
    just a couple names.
    Nick Owen, (MSF-uk)
    Polly Markandya, (MSF-uk)
    Bart Janssens, (MSF-Brussels director of operations in June)


    • Yellow Bird says:

      the first two are undergoing an experimental vaccination trial right now in UK and have posted about it on T. 1st fellah also has blogged a bit about it at MSF and a longer article on Mashable.
      3rd gentleman may or may not have gotten up the wrong side of a certain heavily involved political entity due to certain remarks published back in June. have been trying to locate anything more recent
      annnnnd… no links here…. lets see if this one posts… think that’s it for tonite
      *pulls aluminum beret a bit further down over ears*


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