Curious to creepy: CDC to dispatch medical team to Los Angeles to investigate TB outbreak, as fears spread

February 27, 2013LOS ANGELES, CAThe Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is dispatching scientists to Los Angeles to mount a new attack on an outbreak of tuberculosis on skid row. Health workers have identified about 4,650 people who were probably exposed and are trying to track them, according to news reports. Homeless shelters in Skid Row are increasing efforts to urge people to get tested after state and local public health officials alerted them to the outbreak earlier this month. But people who are not homeless often come in contact with the homeless in public places such as libraries, where often the homeless spend their days or in public transportation and in any place where there is close contact indoors, such as a house of worship, park classroom, restroom, or community center. Some of the homeless pick up TB germs in prison or jail and then spread it to the homeless on the street, including those who are able to spend afternoons in movie theaters near where they hang out or can reach with public transportation. Others may spread TB microbes at homeless shelters. Check out today’s news report, “Skid Row TB epidemic is ‘alarming,’ but the community is well-versed in disease.” Downtown Los Angeles and its hotels attract tourists from Europe and the U.S.A. Los Angeles County health officials have asked federal officials for help to contain a worsening tuberculosis outbreak among the homeless in its downtown area. County health officials here have identified 78 cases of a particular strain of the TB bacteria. But TB germs aren’t limited to the poor and the homeless in neighborhoods such as Skid Row. Recently live TB bacteria was collected just by swiping the eating tray in a plane, where people who are not limited to the homeless travel globally and nationally. TB bacteria is normally carried in “droplets” ranging from 1 – 5 microns, and M. tuberculosis itself ranges from 0.4 – 1.4 microns in size, so I would recommend a mask with a HEPA filter, which filters particles down to 0.3 microns. The recirculated air in airplane cabins is notorious for carrying germs as well as chemical contaminants. Many people wear masks when traveling on airplanes. Homeless use public libraries during the day for access to restrooms and the Internet. It’s easy for TB bacteria to spread from the Skid Row homeless who frequently spend all day in public libraries to use the bathroom where they wash up or to use the computer. School kids coming into a library branch known for attracting homeless people can be exposed to TB microbes just by sitting near the homeless at a public library. –Examiner
Masks: The Los Angeles Police Department has asked officers who patrol the Skid Row neighborhood to wear protective masks and minimize face-to-face contact with individuals who might be infected with tuberculosis. The move comes days after CDC scientists were dispatched to Los Angeles County to help officials investigate and curb a TB outbreak that has sickened nearly 80 downtown residents and claimed 11 lives since 2007. –C.healthline

Despite the eeriness of the case, the Los Angeles TB outbreak has no connection to the grizzly homicide, and discovery of the body of 21 year old Canadian tourist Elisa Lam, whose badly decomposed body was discovered in a water tank at the Cecil hotel.
Movie tie in: In the 2005 paranormal movie, Dark Water, eerie things take place after a body is supposedly found in a water tank on the ceiling of an old apartment building. In the movie, the girl was left alone in the abandoned apartment and fell into the water tank, which Veeck had left open. He was aware of her body, which was why he refused to fix the water problem plaguing the complex. Among the paranormal oddities in the movie, is dark water leaking down through the ceiling in adjacent apartments, and the elevators not working. Fast forward to 2013, leading up to the discovery of Elisa Lam’s body in the water tank, at the Cecil hotel, ‘”The water did have a funny taste,” Sabrina Baugh, a guest at the Cecil, told CNN, which adds that Baugh and her husband had used the water for eight days. ‘We never thought anything of it … We thought it was just the way it was here,’ Baugh said, adding that black water would come out of the shower when the tap was turned on.’” AW, TEP
Hotel’s dark history: The Cecil Hotel has served as temporary home for no less than two serial killers: the legendary “Nightstalker” Richard Ramirez and Austrian Euro-ghoul Jack Unterweger. In 1985, Ramirez paid $14 a night to stay on the 14th floor of the Cecil, where he killed 14 people. Six years later, Unterweger murdered several prostitutes while living at the Cecil. The Cecil Hotel was also the scene of a 1962 suicide, in which 27 year-old Pauline Otten jumped out of her window and landed on a pedestrian, killing both. Two years later, Goldie Osgood, known by some as the Pershing Square Pigeon Lady, was found raped and strangled at the Cecil. It is also widely rumored that Elizabeth Short, aka the Black Dahlia, patronized the seedy hotel and the bar next door shortly before her notorious disappearance in 1947. Perhaps, even weirder, in the movie Dark Water (about the disappearance of a body in a water tank), the main character’s name is Dahlia and her daughter’s name is Cecilia. And if that wasn’t strange enough, the test for TB, is called a Lam-Elisa, which is the reversed name of the missing woman whose discovered body comes on the heels of virulent TB outbreak in Los Angeles. However, there is no established connection with Elisa Lam’s body, or cause of death to the TB outbreak spreading among the homeless in Los Angeles. –GD, TEP
                                                    Video surveillance of Elisa Lam’s bizarre behavior leading up to her death
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19 Responses to Curious to creepy: CDC to dispatch medical team to Los Angeles to investigate TB outbreak, as fears spread

  1. Dennis E. says:

    My two observations:
    1) Move Tie-in::: It seems that a track record is being established regarding to some movie releases
    and then a public event that mirrors the movie. For example, in my teen years I loved to watch hawaii-5-0 and one episode the thesis was a sniper shooting from a hilltop. Later, the news reported a man had reenacted that program in real life to the most minor detail. I think then the term copycat killer came to be used and of course in other situations. I just had the thought also, was somebody trying to warn us through some movies of a future event that would be unsettling to the public. Although the post says that there is no tie in with the murder in the hotel, I would speculate that the investigation is really just beginning…………

    2) Could we see a quarantine in parts of LA? Nothing to disregard/dismiss. A serious emerging health crisis… I have been through a TB contact alert and do take it seriously…


  2. Joseph t. Repas says:

    Unfortunately; it seems like the homeless will now be considered to be like the rats were during the buebonic plague…. or worse!


    • prayntongues says:

      Wow, you touched on something that I don’t think many have thought of. What a “great” excuse for the government to use to sweep the streets clean. All they need is a good disease scare to cause a mass panic and people won’t care about the rights or lives of homeless. People cowering in their homes won’t see the brutality and maltreatment of the “diseased” vermin. Good riddance! will be on the lips of many, this is the grim picture of a Big Brother world. I can see their feeble attempts to scare the masses that guns are the reason for crime and murders, it’s not working, guns are flying off the shelves! As for those who must fly or take public transportation, get N95 masks to wear. They are affordable at Home Depot and should be part of any emergency prep kit.


      • Joseph t. Repas says:

        Thanks prayntongues…I don’t think that even the government would purposely start a disease like that [ though stranger things do happen! ] however; society in general is so paranoid these days they are willing to blame anyone and the homeless are an easy target. Speaking of which, if anyone out there has a company sponsored health care planplease look at how they extort you to get health screening and try topry into your life about what you eat and what you do….why?Because they want to BLAME you for being ill and will surcharge the life out of you if you get sick; i.e. you ate wrong foods,lack of excercise,gave your children faulty genes, etc. etc. only politically correct diseases will be exempt such as aides etc.


  3. Paula says:

    This is so sad and horrifying. God Bless Elisa and her family. More strangely I heard that the TB test is oddly called Elisa Lam- I hope I am wrong. One of the tests for finding TB in the system is called LAM ELISA:

    “Clinical Utility of a Commercial LAM-ELISA Assay for TB Diagnosis in HIV-Infected Patients Using Urine and Sputum Samples”

    headline from site​848
    (note this is just an incidental site with the LAM-ELISA name that I picked from Google at random).



  4. Irene C says:

    This is frightening to say the least. It almost makes one want to stay away from public places. However, I am not one who chooses to live in fear, but I do stay cautious. I will be praying for these people. So many of the homeless are difficult to track down because they distrust any authority.


  5. Sounds like Resident Evil may be upon us. Watch out for zombies!


  6. Qc - Canada says:

    When I was very young (grade 2) my mother would threaten to send me to the regional sanatorium for people with TB if I didn’t stop coughing when I caught the cold. Of course, that didn’t stop me – you cough you cough. However, in those days, TB was a deadly disease as there was no cure. And people with it spent almost their entire lives in sanatoriums of the sort. Luckily, things have evolved. Vaccines were developed. But now thanks to people WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE BENEFITS OF VACCINES, the disease has made a come back. There’s also the fact that now, we can easily travel to far off places where this disease is common. Then there’s the influx of immigrants who were probably NOT vaccinated that has to be taken into account. Just as AIDS became a challenge at the end of last century (if I may express it these terms), TB and other contagious diseases that had almost been irradicated with vaccines will come back.


  7. niebo says:

    That these two stories are intermingled is strange and sad and frightening, like some awful heartbreaking joke.

    Elisa Lam’s odd behavior, the paranoid affect and the way she splayed her fingers (REALLY wide) at one point reminded me of a clip I read (this morning!) about an autoimmune disorder that strikes young women, called “Anti-NMDA Receptor Encephalitis”. The behavior associated with it, according to some, mimics possession; sufferers may lose control of their extremities and often exhibit paranoia, irrational fear, and whiplash mood changes. (One girl thought she was being followed; another believed that she had been kidnapped by her own father.) Some evidence suggests that the illness is related to vaccinations; I wonder if Miss Lam had to accept any shots before she was cleared to leave Canada or to enter the US. . . .


    • RescueMyLife says:

      It looks like she’s tripping on LSD to me


    • Magenta says:

      I like this explanation, it makes logical sense. But the name thing is too weird, what are the chances of that happening? Then throw in the vaccination factor, who knows what deadly cocktail she got out of that mixture. Over a dozen girls have dropped dead after they pulled the needle out for that vaccine they are pushing on young girls. Maybe this is how they will force vaccinations on people. I thought I had read that this particular strain of TB was antibiotic resistant. Whip up the fear factor there for people to line up for their vaccinations?


  8. Bone Idle says:

    Here’s worse news.
    There are now strains of T.B. which are immune to all known drugs. Fortunately these haven’t yet appeared in western countries as yet.


  9. oldenwise says:

    Sounds like a job for Jay’s Analysis and Proparanoid…they love it when they make movies on events like this…forewarned is foretold.

    I see this as just an excuse to round up the homeless, vaccinate them with potentially other more serious viral strains and move them on to other areas to spread.

    11 deaths since 2007…WHO are they kidding…Gardisal has killed way more people and yet they know it kills and continue to vaccinate girls…here in Australia boys are now being vaccinated with Gardisal and we are just waiting for the first victim to be announced…but that will be hushed and blamed on something differently entirely.

    enjoy your trip…and your water.


  10. jasonlovelace says:

    The CC Video of the Elevator and Ms. Lam was VERY weird….


  11. David says:

    My first question is why did the elevator door never close during the CCTV video? Somethings going on here. Could it be fake?


    • Magenta says:

      David, look when she hits the buttons, it looks like she is hitting several buttons, maybe she jammed it or stopped it?


  12. Nick says:

    This reminds me of Cabin Fever, where people were drinking contaminated water. It could be a psychological test run on people to see their reaction. Remember that Elisa Lam was a Psychology student.

    Note: in 1995 there was an incident in New York were a bum who was coughing was diagnosed with a new and unknown TB strain that infected two blocks.


  13. steve says:

    Seems like a case for Fox Moluder, and Dana Skully. Scary stuff. What’s after her? She’s scared of something or someone. And how the hell did she get in the tank? This is something we will never learn the truth about. I think that after 14 people were killed at this Hotel, they should of knocked it down out of respect. Made some angry spirits? I dont even believe in that, but what the hell?


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