Italian court convicts scientists for not predicting earthquake

October 23, 2012ITALY Earthquake experts around the world say they are appalled by an Italian court’s decision to convict six scientists on manslaughter charges for failing to predict the deadly quake that devastated the city of L’Aquila. They warned the ruling could severely harm future scientific research. The court in L’Aquila sentenced the scientists and a government official Monday to six years in prison, ruling that they didn’t accurately communicate the risk of the earthquake in 2009 that killed more than 300 people. The trial centered on a meeting a week before the 6.3-magnitude quake struck. At the meeting, the experts determined that it was “unlikely” but not impossible that a major quake would take place, despite concern among the city’s residents over recent seismic activity. Prosecutors said the defendants provided “inaccurate, incomplete and contradictory information about the dangers” facing L’Aquila. The court agreed, convicting the six scientists from the Italian National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology (INGV) and a member of the Civil Protection Agency. It also ordered the Italian authorities to pay 7.8 million euros ($10 million) in damages. Seismologists were aghast at the court’s decision, noting that earthquakes remain impossible to forecast with any kind of accuracy. –CNN
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37 Responses to Italian court convicts scientists for not predicting earthquake

  1. The sentence is far too harsh for a move that has been far too long in coming. Scientists are very well aware of the disaster into which the human species is heading and they have been aware of this for at leats the last forty years. Yet they continue to play down and suppress this information. If they are louder and more strident in their articulation of the fact that the current way of life of the human species and the objectives of its global civilization are leading to its extinction and possibly to the extinction of life as we know it, then some action to reverse our behavior may be attempted. Yet they refuse to do this and on the contrary they do everything possible to SUPPRESS all those who attempt to sound the warning.

    This ruling may serve as a warning for all these scientists who fail to place their knowledge at the disposal of the human species and who thereby by virtue of their default are guilty of encouraging the human species to continue towards its destruction. They are in effect guilty of causing the destruction of close to 15 Billion Years of evolutionary action by their continuing refusal to sound the alarm.

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  2. Belinda says:

    This decision is totally absurd ! Earthquakes are not predictable! So now geologist will have to say , ” Yep, watch out for this one or that one…” , just to over their behinds!

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  3. john says:

    This is complete BS of the highest order. So what next lets jail weathermen for not predicting rain for tomorrow which caused cars too slide on the road and kill someone. Get a grip italy for god sake, its called mother nature she is unpredictablle

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  4. latinmolina says:

    The government protects HARRP and their affiliates….after all they both benefit the purpose…so there is no stopping them….

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  5. Gordon Muma says:

    ONLY in a country as backwards thinking as Italy, could you have a court decision such as has been brought to these scientists. What a FUC#$NG outrage that the prosecutors AND the judge could agree on such a ludicrous charge. If this is the way that science is looked upon here, I think the surviving scientists should tell the country “shove it” and move to a freer thinking judicial climate. Earthquakes are not predictable, other than knowing that when one is happening, YOU KNOW IT!!!!

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  6. This just defies reasoning. In one breath the scientific community says no way can we predict earthquakes, and in the next breath their being prosecuted for not. Brings to mind Luke 21:20 when Jesus said “on the earth,nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea.” Just looks to me like mankind doesn’t have a rational explanation for what is happening so they are blaming everything instead of looking to God.

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  7. Chris Gerber says:

    I think that after this we might find that the geological communities all over the world will be on edge and will probably be issue warnings at the slightest provocation from the many earthquakes that rattle the world. Although in Italy, where sicentists have gone on trial before apparently, this trial seems to be unprecedented.

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  8. skywalker says:

    just goes to show “how far “some people are willing to shove their heads up their own butts, instead of looking at the truth of the matter. very disappointing, but i guess they already tried to blame this as an act of GOD and were told he wouldn’t pay up , so they said ” let’s blame someone else who had nothing to do with it either”.

    this is just another sign that the people of this world have gone completely insane and lost all sense of reality.

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  9. niebo says:

    So who’s next? Meteorologists? Climatologists? Or does this mean they are going to prosecute bankers for bad investments?

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  10. Jean says:

    Insane! Can scientists sue the rest of us for ignoring their reports?

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  11. isis2012 says:

    No doubt people are not being told truthful scenarios of dangers in possible foreseen situations …

    No mater the outcome … people should be told of the worst case scenarios as well as the least cases scenarios …

    And with this complete range of possibilities laid before them … this would allow the people to make own decisions for their own safety …

    When watchers of situations having access to the knowledge do their part … they will be free from any blood and suffering imposed on the people …

    We’re getting into some dangerous times … some avoidable man made dangers that should have never been put in place … and many escalating dangers of unavoidable effects associated with these days of new beginnings ….

    Nevertheless … it is the duty of those whom have insight information be it scientific proof or orthodox warnings from a Higher frequency link of a Positive Light consciousness …

    Any watchman holding knowledge of imminent scenarios of warnings … should speak up …. Giving a person the chance to search and evaluate and make their common sense decisions as what to do if anything …

    Each watchman of the earth is under obligation to the people …

    Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.

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    • And when they’ve been given the worst-case scenario, and the best-case scenario, and probably several mid-range scenarios. You don’t need to be psychic to know that they’re next question will be…

      “But which of those scenarios will happen ?”

      Those scientists had absolutely no way to win this one.

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  12. Texas Listening Post, Tony says:

    Just from this article it seems like Italy has moved itself back more than a hundred years as far volcanic study is concerned. Who would want to be a volcanologist in Italy? The Italian government fails to listen to one of the county’s famous songs. “Whatever will be will be, the future is not ours to see”. This is very true about volcanoes.

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    • tonic says:

      Or maybe “the fuure is easy to see” No scientific advancemet in this country for a very long time.
      A total disrespect for science.

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  13. A Quebecoise says:

    What nonsense! One can’t predict earthquakes (as of yet). What the authorities should have done is warn the citizens that they lived in a possibly earthquake-proned area and just take the risks associated with it or move else where…

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  14. Marybell says:

    Does the court NOT understand “Acts of God”? No human can predict “Acts of God”. E/Qs is one of them, Floods is another. The most brillant of minds is only foolishness in the eyes of G-D.- In 2008, there was a man, that many thought was “The Messiah”. Look where he is today. Get real, Courts, the true G-D will reveal Himself in the appointed time, and then I say, SUE HIM and Good Luck

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  15. On the one hand, this judgement will put a damper on the inexact science of predicting earthquakes, but on the other it will just serve to encourage the already prevalent tendency to sugar-coat the probabilities of quakes. The bottom line to this court’s decision is that it is the equivalent of convicting a meteorologist for being off in a weather forecast.

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  16. Bill Rind says:

    this is the most dumbest thing I have seen Italian judges perform. what incompetent and buffoonish type law are you morons practicing, what is this witchcraft that you have lowered yourself to, you ignorant bunch of jackasses in black robes.

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  17. Here in New Zealand it’s hard to find anyone who unanimously agrees about our earthquakes. After each one they have said “That should be enough now, it has exhausted itself etc etc”. Then another huge one hits.

    We don’t put them in prison because they were wrong though, lol. We just stop listening to them and award them no credit.

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  18. Mary says:

    You have to wonder how some people actually make it to adulthood……

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  19. Dennis E. says:

    I am extremely shocked by this story in that it did not originate in the united states.
    In recent years, I have noticed how overwhelming the local meteorologist(s) have become
    in the reporting of potential severe weather that often does not materialize. I ponder if they too or the parent company also fears court action from weather related deaths.

    Also, consider recent recommendations from Homeland Security recommending that citizens stock up? For what.? Everything is to the extreme now it seems.

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    • niebo says:

      Hey, Dennis E: If you consider that anyone who has more than two months food on-hand fits the criteria for being a terrorist . . . be careful not to stock up TOO much!

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  20. This ruling is beyond #absurd. We still know so little about the triggers for quakes and what provides the tipping point.

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  21. How embarrassingly idiotic for Italy, and how horrendous for her victims.

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  22. m c says:

    WOW…..I’m torn on this one.

    On one hand you have scientists that get all that money to do the research they love to do and can throw out a panic or conceal the truth without anything happening to them.(until now)

    on the other hand predicting a volcano with any accuracy is still a ways off IMO and shouldnt be expected to be forecasted anywhere near as good as the weather and we all know how that goes.

    I wonder how many volcanoligists are still enjoying their work there.

    The bottom line seems to be more and more people are being held accountable for what they do and dont do which is a good thing.

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  23. Cheyner says:

    Next scientists will be prosecuted for not predicting where lightning will strike.

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  24. Jamron Gulyas says:

    Unbelievable. Next the courts will convict scientists for not accurately predicting global warming.

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  25. JungleMitty says:

    Yes, I agree, what is next? Police state societys everywhere coming forth. Oh, no, I just saw a comet, somebodys going to jail!!

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  26. tina says:

    Are they reenacting the Spanish Inquision, Sound like it.

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  27. Wes says:

    Next time they should just say an earth quake is possible so lets evacuate the whole town, after a while they will get tired of it. Scientist for the most part or theorist and only one can predict accurately and they are not it, You have to be crazy to even think they should be held in front of any court for this.Sh** happens and its no ones fault so next time empty out the whole area for say a month just to be safe.

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  28. tina says:

    How do we know whether the Governments are not creating their own Earthquakes by blasting underground to build underground Cities like they have done in USA or the Hydron collider under Switzerland and France etc. The normal popualation will not survive any exterme weather catastrophe or nuclear war.

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  29. Irene C says:

    After reading the comments here, I agree with you. So lets just predict an earthquake over any fault line (which Italy is full of) and not forget the blind fault lines. After awhile, people will stop listening. But when an earthquake does hit, the scientists can say “we told you so”. They’ve been predicting the “big one” in California for more years than I can remember. Will it come one day? Sure it will. Will a tornado hit tornado alley? Sure it will. But the exact moment cannot be predicted. This kangaroo court is ludicrous.

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  30. tonic says:

    Matthew Hopkins, the Witchfinder General is still alive, and well in 2012, it seems.
    Shame on all involved in his ludicrous, narrow minded, decision.

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  31. blessed says:

    Unbelievable!!!!! What is this world coming to? Seriously. The Vatican is in Italy I hope Pope Benedict the XVI can do something about this to get these scientist out of prison. They did the best they could to predict it NO ONE CAN PREDICT AN EARTHQUAKE ONLY GOD KNOWS WHEN AND WHERE. I will pray for these poor persecuted scientist.

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  32. maurilio says:

    Those scientists were convicted not because they were not able to predict an earthquake, but because they lied to the people telling them that there was no risk and that they (the people) could go back to their homes without fear because no big earthquake was coming!

    Judge and jury found them guilty of lying, not of not being able to predict.

    See here:

    http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ilfattoquotidiano.it%2F2012%2F10%2F23%2Fsentenza-grandi-rischi-scienza-non-centra-sismologi-inguaiati-dalla-politica%2F391443%2F&act=url

    Maurilio.

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  33. Sam Beckett says:

    Haha…really!?!? I literally had to shake my head & close my eyes then open my eyes again to make sure I read the title right. I am left dumbfounded by this..haha really!? I hope every single one of these moronic idiots that are involved in sending these people to jail, lose their jobs, are fined for stupidity & sent to jail…because society is safer with them in jail.

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  34. Tim says:

    5.3EQ in Italy this evening at 5:26 UTC. Wonder if anyone is going to jail? They might put the judge in jail for putting the scientist in jail, leaving no one to predict this event.

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