27 Responses to Empire strikes back: Did Pakistani intelligence tip off Iran to U.S. drone flight plan?

  1. USA clearly violates the air space of all countries and does not respect soverign nations.Usa has initiated the THIRD WORLD WAR at a very sobtle level long ago and continues this with subterfuge and media control.on the basis of protecting its interests.
    One of the weapons of MassDestructions is the US dollar which is manuplated to artifically devalue the currencies of other countries in order to exploit them.


  2. nickk0 says:

    I’ll say it…… Maybe the Emperor, really doesn’t have any clothes on.

    Said in another way :
    Maybe the Emperor’s communication datalink with his secret ‘steath’ drone, really did get compromised.

    – Nick


  3. tim says:

    This should raise the brow of every american . Watch for more on this in the coming days . We think that we are the king of the hill but this just goes to show there are some out there ready to take over that role and evil is their name.


  4. Luciano says:

    Sounds more like a gift to me and not a capture.


  5. Elizabeth says:

    Hmmm, I seem to remember about a month or two ago when it was revealed that the drones’ systems were infected with a computer virus, although they claimed it did not affect the controls. This certainly lends a lot of credibility that the Iranians brought it down by it’s own controls. I find it pretty insulting that the government and the media thinks we are ALL complete morons, and that we can’t connect the dots and realize that if the drones had a virus 2 months ago, it’s obvious now that the virus was used to bring it down, and possibly prevent the self destruct option. They keep denying things that are so obviously true, such as the sabotage that has been waged against Iran. Now, I am not saying I think the iranian government is full of wonderful people who treat their citizens well, quite the opposite. Since the ayatolla took control, the human rights violations are atrocious. But, we won’t do the best thing for all involved either, we will do what is profitable to the corporations who make weapons and who profit from war.

    What a sad state of affairs we are in these days; the global chess board is lining up for WW3, and there seems to be no stopping it. We have our escalating tensions with China, and our announcements as of late to beef up our presence in the Pacific; I shudder to think of going to war with China. Then, the drumbeats for war with Iran are getting louder everyday, and if they close the straits of Hormuz, we are going to have some really bad times here in the US. Our relations with Pakistan are not only soured, they have been revealed to be false; I knew the day that Benazir Bhutto was murdered that things were going to change. Even Russia is getting involved, at least verbally; Putin has accused Hillary Clinton of instigating the current protests (how hypocritical that our government calls for the rest of the world to rise up against tryanny, but they beat the shit out of college kids when they protest peacefully here); whether that’s true or not, it is still a significant statement for Putin to make, and quite confrontational.

    I worry for our future; while the previous 2 world wars were horrendous in loss of life, a third one, with the weapons that many countries have today, will be nothing short of catastrophic. I have been reading about nuclear bombs being used by us in Iraq, but before you scoff, you have to realize that we now have nukes that are tiny, and can be fired from a shoulder-held RPG gun. We can nuke a house, and not damage the houses around it (although the whole neighborhood will die from the radiation). We also have neutron bombs, which are just like a gamma ray burst; they won’t destroy buildings, just kill every living thing with a wave of radiation. When you realize that our nuclear weapons are not like the ones in the 40s, but are so advanced and small they can be used in Iraq and most people in the US will never know about it, it becomes quite believable. The reporters from Al-Jazeera who have witnessed it are almost all now dead, from ‘accidents’ after they returned home. Almost every American journalist in Iraq is imbedded, and therefore completely under the military’s control; it’s not like the government owned mainstream media would ever let this out anyway. Anyway, the point is, we will not likely survive the coming third world war with our advanced civilization intact. It’s pretty likely that a few countries will use their big nukes, the ones that destroy whole cities. I don’t know who first said this quote, but I believe it to be true…”I don’t know exactly how world war 3 will be fought, but I know how WW4 will be; with sticks and stones.”


  6. karl says:

    What seems strange to me is the apparent difference in appearance of this craft to all the pics of other similar drones, why is this particular one have rounded leading edges to its wings ? when all the other pics show sharp leading edges and a different screen/air intake.
    Maybe the Iran Drone is a prop ?!


    • IMG

      Well, it’s sitting on a platform hiding the landing gear…and the landing gear is a clear indication if it was brought down by landing, as the Iranians claimed, or that it fell out of the sky and crashed. From the above picture, it’s clear the Iranians constructed a platform to hide the landing gear and underbelly of the craft….


  7. tim says:

    You are so right in many of your points . This is no the only place ready to explode with war . i was in Cozmel Mexico last week . there were f-15 looking fighter jets flying in formation over the city the entire time we were there. they were black with no markings . these were low enough to see the weapons hanging from thr wings. also there were flat bed stake camo trucks rolling through the streets non stop all day . these were loaded full of machine gun carrying troops all wearing jungle camo. also there were troops traveling in pairs of two all over the city streets . these guys were wearing all black body armor with no marking what so ever. their guns of choise were all black AK47s and UZI pistols .there is something growing down there and i dont think it is good .it was not like this the last time i was there two years ago.


    • nickk0 says:

      Tim – Are you positive, that these were F-15’s, and not SU-27’s ?? 😦 They are ‘similar’.

      – Nick


    • Elizabeth says:

      Tim, is Cozmel a bad area for the cartels? I wonder if all that heavy military presence was for Mexico’s fight with the cartels, or if it was something else. Either way, I bet that quite intimidating to see.


  8. Irene C says:

    This is getting curiouser and curiouser.

    I agree Elizabeth, the next big war will be horrible. And that quote is so true – “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” Albert Einstein (1947)

    God help us all.



  9. Teddy says:

    This news reminds me of the movie ”Troy”


  10. nanoduck says:

    Either that it is a bluff to provoke their enemies (Iranians may not have captured a undamaged drone, and instead built a fake one), or it was secretly “given” by someone (perhaps an inside job to make an excuse for attack on the Iranian people). Sort of like a Trojan horse. Who knows…but the whole thing smells like a predetermined setup in the global political game.


    • Byzcat says:

      Here! Here! I agree with you. Our military is not stupid. The whole thing stinks of a setup. We are not being told a fraction of the truth about this.


  11. Water Dragon says:


    Privacy advocates have raised the alarm on the US police deployment of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) to carry out surveillance against the American people.

    Local police say they have used two unmanned Predator drones based at Grand Forks Air Force Base in North Dakota to fly at least two dozen surveillance flights since June, according to a recent Los Angeles Times report.

    The law enforcement’s previously unreported use of spy drones has occurred without any public acknowledgment or debate, the report said.

    The UAVs are said to belong to the US Customs and Border Protection, which claims to use its drones to assist local, state and federal police.

    According to the report, Michael C. Kostelnik, a retired Air Force general who heads the office that supervises the drones, has said, however, that Predators are flown “in many areas around the country, not only for federal operators, but also for state and local law enforcement and emergency responders in times of crisis.”

    But former Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), who sat on the House homeland security intelligence subcommittee at the time and served as its chairwoman from 2007 until early this year, said no one ever discussed using Predators to help local police serve warrants or do other basic work.

    Using Predators for routine law enforcement without public debate or clear legal authority is a mistake, Harman said.

    Advocates say the high-resolution cameras, heat sensors and sophisticated radar on the border protection drones can help track people’s activities in the United States, just as the CIA uses Predators and other drones in other countries.



  12. Water Dragon says:

    Sorry about the wrong addy site. Am on two different threads at same time and didn’t get a good copy on new addy.

    Addy to news story above is: http://presstv.com/detail/215408.html


  13. randog says:

    first its still all about oil and secondly before there will be a serious ww3 there will be peace in the middle east for 3 and a half years and at the end of this time it will be broken and lead to ww3.so whomever brings about the peace will pretend to be nice but will be leading all towards a very very large ww3.so there is still time to get prepared as much as possible.perhaps im correct and perhaps im not.at any rate its food for thought.,,peace and love


  14. Larry says:


    Hello Alvin and you guys who are into Hi Tech.I am sure you are all well read but I thought I would remit this link to you re DRONES.It seems to me the good old US of America has offered it all on a silver dish to the Iranians.The word ‘backfired’ is an understatement.If you seek other links on this topic you will be amazed at the Hi Tech that will be found when they the Iranian technicians reverse engineer this single drone.Many Countries will be excited about dismantling this priceless piece of
    technological advancement.I feel sure that even the Russians might have an eye on this blue print.

    The Pentagon only have themselves to blame and then they are in denial and blatantly and openly espouse to the media that is has not been downed and is it not in the hands of the Iranians.I realise that in the interests of National Security in the Pentagon they have to reserve their comments but this is so obvious to the whole of the World and that Iran now has another card up its sleeve.I like many of you may not like Iran but one has to doff one’s hat to them like them or not.

    Seasons Greetings to you all from the good old UK



  15. Otto Lund says:

    Entrust PKI Backdoor Into Missile Guidance and Control Software – Macdonald Dettwiler and Associates from Orbital Sciences – CIA Drone In Iran http://www.abeldanger.net/2011/12/entrust-pki-backdoor-into-missile.html


  16. Tim says:

    US: U.S. Probing Alleged Cyberattack Plot by Venezuela, Iran:
    U.S. officials are investigating reports that Iranian and Venezuelan diplomats in Mexico were involved in planned cyberattacks against U.S. targets, including nuclear power plants. Allegations about the cyberplot were aired last week in a documentary on the Spanish-language TV network Univision, which included secretly recorded footage of Iranian and Venezuelan diplomats being briefed on the planned attacks and promising to pass information to their governments. A former computer instructor at the National Autonomous University of Mexico told Univision that he was recruited by a professor there in 2006 to organize a group of student hackers to carry out cyberattacks against the United States, initially at the behest of the Cuban Embassy.



    • tim says:

      like i said i was just in mexico and it has changed alot from two years ago when i was there. some ones military is all over that place and i mean alot . could be for the drug problem ? i dont think so there were truck loads of them .


  17. Tim says:

    There appears to a two month window.

    Iran: Iran Uranium to Go Into Nuclear Plant Mid-February:
    Iran is to insert its first domestically produced high enriched uranium into its Tehran reactor by mid-February, Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi said in comments published by the state IRNA news agency on Thursday. The announced deadline could sharpen international tensions over Iran’s controversial nuclear program at a time of increased speculation in Israeli and US media of military strikes on Iran’s atomic facilities. The West fears Iran’s nuclear program masks a push to develop an atomic weapons capability, a charge Tehran denies.



  18. Luciano says:

    Times like this call us to be more centered on God otherwise we are more prone to be overwhelmed by the evil around us. I like to offer an advise from the book of Sirach, also known as Ecclesiasticus, Chapter 2 about trust in God. When it comes to spiritual readings I recommend prayer to the Holy Spirit the we may see by faith and not filter the reading by our own biases which are a very major source of division. I also go by a motto from a saint, I hope for all good things from God and fear all evil from myself, It has been for me a real help in avoiding trouble. Let us not forget to pray for those that lead us that they may be converted.


  19. Finally something good on WW3 o read… i like the sound of the set up and stuff…
    but if there’s going to be a ww3.. it wont be initiated by either US or Russia.. ans no one wants to go head to head against either of them… not even the two themselves…
    so this is how i think the events would take plave… India going to south china sea to work with vietnam and explore oil… chins is in Pakistani kashmir and the dragon is ready to brethe fire on the tiger….
    India cajoles up with myanmmar and brings US to the party… North Korea sees a change in power, a kid advised by senior army officials not of the same clan will make a mistake… (read killing of US soldiers on DMZ) unreast in korean peninsula… China asserts itself on indian border.. India inches deeper in south china sea… China attacks India, Pakistan joins its all weather friend to take revenge from India… Russia and others call for peace… US, Nato, India China all in a mess… so Israel makes a move and bombs iran, iran retalliates… US enters the ww3 that has started in Asia… France gives military, monetary aid to India, UK follows… Russia is playin wait and watch….. (rest will continue later on.. i got a meeting to attend, b4 my boss fires me..:P)


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