45 Responses to Extreme rendition: Senate bill seeks to extend U.S. powers of detention anywhere in the world

  1. Martalien says:

    geezus crist this new law will now scare everyone in the world we live in paranoi world already this is insane!!

  2. bridak says:

    This was a very good post. I just can’t believe everything i hear and see from the United States anymore. People have no more rights and they are king of all lands. How can they even have the right to do what they are doing is beyond me. Something will have to happen because they are getting out of hand completely now. It is crazy and the U.S is getting very very scary.

    Where is this world going i wonder..

    Much Love

  3. watching from NZ says:

    on top of this there are going to be changes to the aviation code that allows for unmanned drones within US airspace…

    http://endthelie.com/2011/11/29/drones-cleared-for-domestic-use-across-the-us/#axzz1exluMRu5

    • nickk0 says:

      It is amazing, the Money that gets Shoveled into Military applications and research.

      AS for one of the co-sponsors of this bill, I will say that I am disappointed…… I would have expected better, from Senator John McCain.

      – Nick

  4. RainMan says:

    Ahh……so this means they can jail the deceiving/thieveing bankers/brokers who stole billions from the people of the USA by lies/deception/fraud, thus causing an oncoming collapse of a nation. That’s terrorism disguised in a Armani suit driving a Rolls Royce betting your money on derivitives/and everything else that wasn’t nailed down or growing in your garden….go get em lads!!!

  5. Dennis E. says:

    Looks like, trouble coming, i can see it. It is getting worst every year it seems.
    Going to have to do something before it is too late to do anything at all.
    Going to have to relocate. Going to have to leave my beloved country and go to America. About
    the only place left on earth where a person has civil rights and liberties guaranteed by The Bill of Rights and a very good Consitution. That is what I will do…………

    Oh, I was dreaming, I am in America……….

    • Irene C says:

      So true Dennis. I love my country and I sometimes wonder where would be a good place to go. Unfortunately, this is becoming global. Our Constitution and The Bill of Rights have become antiquated pieces of paper. On that note, looks like my senators will be hearing from me, once again.

      Maranatha

      • watching from NZ says:

        NZ is a nice place, at the moment before we have a huge number of immigrants from the northern hemisphere!

  6. RainMan says:

    Ecclesiastes
    chapter 8 verse 11
    “Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily,
    therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them
    to do evil”

  7. Richard says:

    Bad news. Under the article of war, they can hold you as a war combatant, but as a citizen of the US, a person is entitled to due process by a jury of their peers. They can only hold you for 72 hours…theoretically. This is the new gestapo.

  8. nanoduck says:

    Ahhh…Senator McCain is showing his true colors. I voted for him against Obama, but it is apparent to me that there wasn’t really a choice, as both of them are very anti-American. Just different on the surface, but same agenda underneath.

  9. mike says:

    New World Order…

  10. Tim says:

    Jun 28, 2011
    Ron Paul on the house floor warning America

  11. Tim says:

    One year ago
    November 21, 2010
    Martial Law in America – Conplan 3502

  12. a.watcher says:

    Liberty, Freedom and Justice for All. Remember that?
    We struggled with the USSR for years because their ‘system’ oppessed people.. Are we not now heading in the same direction?
    Ron Paul speaks the truth. It is clear he is the only one not owned by the multi lateral corpratists.

  13. John Hollis says:

    Alvin,
    I’m in Moscow Russia at the moment. I’d love a list on who voted and how on this bill – I might just become a resident here. …

    • otay1 says:

      May not be a bad idea at all. A year ago I concluded that asking Russia for political asylum from the u.s. seemed more viable now that the u.s. & uk appears to be gobbling up cultural sovereignty all over the world.
      Especially now that these thugs are going for grabbing people anywhere in the world with the latest self-serving fascist legislation. In addition to 12-15 so-called “vote” on internet “piracy”, or snuff out uppity attempts to help ourselves from THEM..

      Ironically, if this wasn’t america 2011, i would swear we were living the Russian Revolution of October 1917.
      (the people were swamped in a mere 8 months from uprising, let’s keep that uppermost in our minds)

  14. Son of a mason says:

    The scary thing is many u.s citizens think this is a good thing.. in one year u.s citizens will welcom China as liberators

  15. Gen says:

    In the post “North Korea threatens to turn South Korea into a sea of fire”, Alvin made the comment that the US is the 2nd beast in Revelation 13.

    After having read this current post regarding the Senate bill I can only think one thing now:

    That the US military is beginning to surface as a prime candidate for 2nd beast.

    If the papacy is the 1st beast, I am now thinking one thing concerning that also:

    Who is running, or seeking nomination to run, for the 2012 US Presidential election who would tie the two together.

    I might be misconstruing the whole thing, but it is hovering very clearly in my mind.

    • radiogirl says:

      Hint…….he converted.

      • U.S. Senator Rand Paul sounds chilling warnings to all Americans but bill passes anyway

      • otay1 says:

        You mean Blair is going to show up on the bogus ballot futile public exercise of Nov ’12 u.s. elections?

        I wouldn’t blink, it’s all so cynical.

        We have to put up with some Stuff for awhile, people. I’m betting they’ll destroy themselves in their stupid, ungainly attempt to bite all of this off. In the meantime, be as self-sustaining as humanly possible.

    • Amy P. says:

      Somehow, I envision Hillary Clinton as that person. Draw your own conclusions on how that would be done. She is a very frightening woman.

    • Irene C says:

      Interesting thought Gen. That thought has also crossed my mind. I have been watching the candidates very carefully and, since I really don’t trust any of them, any one of them could be a prime candidate. So many people want to vote Obama out, they would vote anyone in to achieve that goal, even Satan himself I believe.

      Whether or not the US military is the 2nd beast is still up in the air. Only God knows all the identities of all the end-times players. But, I will concur that it is a possibility.

      And I agree with Amy P. Yes, Hillary is a very frightening woman.

      • pagan66 says:

        I don’t trust any of them here in Australia either, Labor, Libs, Greens, Independents – they are all in bed with each other & all with their snouts in the trough. Today, after slashing parts of family benefits, medical research funding, public service spending, Health & other things they announced huge pay rises for members of parliament. The absolute nerve of it. Our PM got a 90k per year pay rise if you can believe it, taking her annual salary to about 470k. We may be labelled the Lucky Country but things are starting to unravel at the seams here, people are losing their jobs & the cost of food, utilities & petrol is through the roof. Police, nurses & teachers have been fighting for a 12k raise over 3 years for a long time now & the work they do is just as important as what those fat cat MP’s do.

        I think Ju-Liar Gillard will need that 470k + after the next election if not before to buy a little island somewhere isolated because in the 45 years I have lived I have NEVER seen any PM quite so hated.

        http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/mps-strike-it-rich-with-huge-pay-rises/story-e6frg12c-1226211323326

        Peace

    • mike says:

      It’s time to not vote for either party. Right in Ron Paul if he doesn’t make it…otherwise vote for every non Republican and non Democrat out there. Throw all of them out! How bad could that be…It sure as hell can’t get any worse.

  16. Dave says:

    After everything we have been through as a civilization here on earth , why are people so geeked about this? The “Owners” are going for the “money shot” this time and they will get everything they want , at least until we destroy ourselves or have some other interesting event occur that cleans the slate here on earth for ALL of civilization. Bring it on!

  17. pagan66 says:

    I’ve always thought Orwell was a prophet or at the very least either subconciously or not, tapped into a higher level of awareness when he wrote. This possible new US Bill has definite shades of Animal Farm & 1984. I can also find simillarities with unfolding world current events in works byTolkien & to a lesser extent by King. The signs are all around us.

    Peace

  18. Gen says:

    Radiogirl, I went looking and saw that last night.

  19. Tim says:

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    ~ Benjamin Franklin

    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.
    ~ Adolf Hitler

  20. nickk0 says:

    I had a few thoughts, and I want to put this down, before I go to bed and forget.

    In one of the video links posted above, it was mentioned that part of the debate on the bill, was held ‘behind closed doors’.
    We do not know, what exactly was discussed….. Or, *what* they know, that has not been disclosed publicly.

    For such a secret hearing to convince a majority of the Senate, to vote for approval of the bill, in the face of our Constitutional traditions….would indicate to me, that there were some pretty frightening scenarios being discussed.

    Given recent World Events that have been unfolding, this can’t be a good thing.

    – Nick

  21. Tim says:

    One year ago – Oct 28, 2010
    Retired Lt. Gen. W.G. Boykin
    General Jerry Boykin discusses his background and training in understanding Marxist insurgencies and how current government actions parallel Marxist tactics.

    William G. Boykin (Wikipedia) – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_G._Boykin

    • nickk0 says:

      ” Senators ultimately reached an agreement to amend the bill to make clear it’s not the bill’s intent to allow for the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens and others legally residing in the country. ”

      Without reading any of the details on the bill, I hope that this is true.

      – Nick

  22. Tim says:

    Another provision of the same passed bill.

    The Senate on Thursday evening voted 93-7 to approve a defense authorization bill that includes a provision which not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals–or bestiality.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senate-approves-bill-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-us-militarY

    What are these 97 senators thinking?

    • mike says:

      Seriously, what are our “leaders” thinking. I’m so done with both the Republicans and Democrats I’m voting for every non traditional party this november. How much worse could it get. This is the worst piece of legislation to come across the senate since the McCarthy era… and back then I doubt this would’ve passed 93-7…in a Democratically held Senate no less. I’m done. This country won’t last another 10 years. I hate to say this believe me. I love our country but how is this happening…

  23. Tim says:

    The Pentagon Is Offering Free Military Hardware To Every Police Department In The US
    http://www.businessinsider.com/program-1033-military-equipment-police-2011-12

    The 1033 Program (formerly the 1208 Program) permits the Secretary of Defense to transfer, without charge, excess U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) personal property (supplies and equipment) to state and local law enforcement agencies (LEAs).
    http://www.justnet.org/Pages/1033.aspx

  24. Tim says:

    US: Napolitano Stresses International Partnerships, Aviation and Cyber Security on Overseas Trip:
    Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano told French military and security agencies on Dec. 2 that international partnerships are key to security efforts worldwide. In remarks to her international counterparts at the École Militaire in Paris on the importance of strong international partnerships, Napolitano highlighted DHS’ commitment to working with France and other European partners to enhance international security. Napolitano is on a worldwide travel swing that will take her to Europe and the Middle East in the next week. Napolitano also underscored the DHS’ international security efforts, emphasizing the full range of threats the United States and its international partners face including terrorism and organized crime, including narcotics smuggling and human trafficking; proliferation of chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons; and emerging threats in cyberspace. She said DHS has more than 1,500 employees stationed abroad in 75 countries working bilaterally with nations and other major multilateral bodies and organizations to strengthen the security of the networks of global trade and travel.

    http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/25142?c=federal_agencies_legislative

  25. Fillade says:

    That day is upon us now.
    Please goto Alex Jones Info Wars, Article by Arron Dykes on the Government staffing and activation of the Major FEMA camps NOW.
    Within four weeks of the implosion of the EU the US Dollar will fall, that with other manufactured events within this nation will provide the basis for the declaration of national emergency/martial law. There will be no 2012 presidential election.
    If you have eyes to see, ears to hear, minds to collate, review the investegative reporting of Palema Shuffert/Truth-4-all@aol.com.
    Have a mechanical engineer explain to you the purpose and result of venting exterior gas fueled furnace’s into sealed building’s at the Amtrack Rail Car Facility in Beech Grove, Indiana Fema Camp.
    Wake up, Ask Why, and Pray continually.

    Fillade

  26. Fillade says:

    Thank You Alvin for allowing me to post my last comment, I see the sword clearly coming.
    I pray all others will.

    Fillade

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